the flying moose· Registered
As I said in a different thread, I think they are both in cruise-control right now, and will up the game later on in the Olympics.Jeez if Canada and Russia don't step it up they will be playing the bronze medal game.
Ha, I read this post and had to look up the results because I sure didn't believe it when I read it. Crazy.
Not that solid lol.Not really much of an upset. Slovakia has a pretty solid team.
Solid team or not, Russia are supposed to be Gold Medal contenders this year. You don't do that by losing to Slovakia.Not really much of an upset. Slovakia has a pretty solid team.
I heard that the coach's response when asked why he put OVy out three times was "He wanted to go." SO is Ovechkin running this team or what?Definitely a failure in coaching.
For Russia's sake I hope Fedorov has a talk with him. He is the only one with the resume to even approach Ovy about how he plays the game. It will only make him a better player in the NHL aswell.That why teams like Slovakia and Sweden do well. Their teams aren't made up of superstars and they are able to put any ego's aside and do what's best for the team.
Like other Russian coaches, Bykov's not a good coach when it comes to superstar players, he just gives them what they want. He ignored Radulov, who is one of the best in one-on-one situations on Bykov's own KHL team, and the KHL as a whole.I heard that the coach's response when asked why he put OVy out three times was "He wanted to go." SO is Ovechkin running this team or what?
Malkin was feeling ill and didn't want to participate in the shootout at all. He was sitting still, resting his head on the board before his attempt and left the bench and went to the room after his first attempt.Why the hell are you giving Ovechkin multiple opportunities when you have Malkin sitting on the bench?
Ovechkin was one of the few Russian players who actually left it all on the ice in that game. Ovechkin wasn't the main problem in the loss, I've never seen him put so much effort into penalty killing situations before.I think that if Ovy doesn't become less selfish the big Red Machine is going to crash and burn.
And this is why I voted coaching the most important aspect of a tournament like this. You have to be able to motivate and order your players around. While I'm not sold on Ovechkin being the biggest problem with the Russian team, you're not going to be able to motivate them or get them to implement a system if they won't listen to you at all.IF the coaching staff lets this turn into the Ovechkin Show, regardless of him being the best in the world or not, the team is going to have issues.
Yes, you can send them as many times as you want after three.I missed the end of the Russia/Slovakia game. They sent Ovi THREE times? After three, can you just send the same guy over and over or in sets of three?
Bykov's not a good "superstar" coach, he never has been. Most modern Russian coaches have a terrible track record of coaching such players (like the Plyushchev/Filatov situation at the World Juniors). They listen to these players and do whatever they say.And why in the world would you send Ovechkin more than once when you're a team that boasts Datsyuk?
Ovechkin is in Datsyuk's practice group and is actually attentive and runs the drills the way Datsyuk designs them. If you would have watched Ovechkin kill a penalty in that game, you would have noticed some little things that I'm sure Datsyuk pointed out to him.For Russia's sake I hope Fedorov has a talk with him. He is the only one with the resume to even approach Ovy about how he plays the game. It will only make him a better player in the NHL aswell.
Issues with what? Other players on the team? I haven't heard anything of the sort.Does he have issues? Remember Kovalchuk had to smooth things out with Malkin at the All-star game last year.
The coaches need to actually tell him no, before you can claim that he has an issue sharing the spotlight. Bykov will go to the star players and ask them what to do, and since Ovechkin is the best pure scorer in the game, then why wouldn't he say "put me in" when the game is on the line?The guy obviously loves the limelight, and he deserves every minute of it he gets. But if he has problems sharing it, then he needs to work on it.
You say Slovakia not a good team? Their roster I think in my opinion is pretty good. On the other hand Sweden, is a good team too.That why teams like Slovakia and Sweden do well. Their teams aren't made up of superstars and they are able to put any ego's aside and do what's best for the team.
No, I am not saying they are not good. I am saying they are not stacked with high end talent like Canada or Russia and don't have the ego's that go along with it.You say Slovakia not a good team? Their roster I think in my opinion is pretty good. On the other hand Sweden, is a good team too.
Does it change in the later rounds? I remember seeing Czech and Canada going to a 5 person shootout back in the day...Datsyuk also didn't look good in his first shootout attempt whatsoever. I wouldn't have played him right away after either, especially since there's a bench full of other wizards with the puck, like Radulov.
It is quite possible that it is simply a translation error, but it is still a strange decision.Well, the quote doesn't say that Ovechkin requested to go out again. Bykov doesn't speak English, so it's entirely possible that he didn't understand or know how to answer the question, or his response was just translated incorrectly. Ovechkin "wanting to go" could be Bykov asking him if he thought he could score and Ovechkin replying "yes."
For the most part, in international competition, the teams do repeat the same player multiple times. Had Russia won the game, there wouldn't be any questioning Ovechkin shooting three times.
I believe they changed the shootout rules either for, or just before Torino to go with three shooters instead of five. Since the Olympics use IIHF rules, it doesn't change in later rounds, Toews' legendary shootout performance at the World Juniors is an example of this. It was either the Torino Olympics or the 2006 World Juniors that debuted the rule changes, but I can't remember which at this time.Does it change in the later rounds? I remember seeing Czech and Canada going to a 5 person shootout back in the day...
I agree it was a strange decision, but the quote given has to be read into to actually come up with an assumption of what happened.It is quite possible that it is simply a translation error, but it is still a strange decision.
I have no problem with guys getting multiple chances in the SO, but sending out the same guy three times while leaving the players on the bench that the Russians did just seems odd. What makes it stranger is that the SO is one of Ovechkin's weakest areas.
After watching Radulov put the puck on a string a few times in that game I can't fathom why he wasn't the #4 shooter.
Makes sense. People either like it (mostly because of Toews' shootout performance), or they don't. I'm one of the few who don't really care.I'm not a fan of the new shooutout system...