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8:38 PM EDT, 06/28/2006

DETROIT (AP) - Red Wings general manager Ken Holland has made offers to re-sign defenceman Nicklas Lidstrom, forward Brendan Shanahan and goaltender Chris Osgood but doesn't know if any of the three will agree to deals before free agency begins Saturday.

"I'm trying to work with each of those players, and their agents, to find a number that works for them and works for us," Holland said Wednesday. "Hopefully, we'll find something that works for both sides in each of those three cases."

The Red Wings would also like to bring back captain Steve Yzerman, but they are still waiting for the famed centre to decide if he wants to play or retire.

"I talked to him two weeks ago, and we said we'd talk again this week," Holland said. "I'd like to know what his plans are before Saturday, but I've told him he can take all the time he wants because obviously he's making an important decision."

The Red Wings decided against bringing back No. 1 goalie Manny Legace but are interested in having Osgood return as a backup - behind a goalie to be announced.

"We're going to find a goaltender this off-season, but that's easier said than done," Holland said. "There are some free agents out there with some ability and experience, and some that might be available in a trade. The problem is, if we have to commit a lot of money to a goaltender, I have to get rid of one of our key players."

The NHL salary cap was increased to $44 million US earlier this week, giving each team about $5 million more to spend than last season.

"We're going to keep some money available, just in case of an injury, but we'll be as close to the cap as we can be with signings that we hope to make," Holland said.

The most a player can make this upcoming season is $8.8 million, and Lidstrom's agent might be asking for a maximum contract - or close to it - after he was named the league's top defenceman for a fourth time earlier this month.

"We really want Nick back, but we have to reach a deal that works for both sides," Holland said. "I talked to him and his agent recently, and we negotiated again on Monday.

"If he and the other players we'd like to get back want the top end of market value, we're not going to be able to do all the things we want to do with our team."
 

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The Red Wings offered forward Brendan Shanahan a contract, but the free agent chose to see if another team would pay him more.

"The doors aren't closed with him," Holland said.
 

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he did this in '04 and the offers werent much better. Im pretty sure we will see him back.. sometimes its the players way for holding out on money...

but let me tell you holland already said they cannot afford to pay him more. and you know, he had a great season last year.. but i wouldnt pay any more than what hes getting.

hes my favorite player as far as forwards go... but if its time to say good bye there will be one tear then ill go on and say.. well it was a great run and ill miss the irish jig.
 

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Get Rid Of Holland & Build Defense

The biggest problem with the Wings is Ken Holland. Why does Holland insist on going after dinosaur players who can no longer produce? Holland wanted to go after Rolloson instead of grooming Legace. Rolloson is not an elite goal tender, but Edmonton's strong defense is what made them unstopable. I don't think the answer is Osgood or seeking out Belfour, but hanging in there with Manny and getting some strong, physical defenseman. Shanny has terrific regular seasons, but is absent come play off. I would like to see Yzerman go out with a cup and think he will make a difference if he stays healthy. Lidstrom is not as great as he used to be, and all Chelios does is whine. The Wings need a strong, young, and physical team. Holland tends to look at goaltending without considering the defense. Granted, Legace let up some soft goals, but Edmonton's unbeliveable amount of blocked shots is what put the Wings away.
The Wings should dump Holland and find a GM that looks at the whole picture.
Groom Legace and maybe put Jimmy Howard as back-up and then scout for some physical defensemen.
 

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RDA586 said:
The biggest problem with the Wings is Ken Holland. Why does Holland insist on going after dinosaur players who can no longer produce? Holland wanted to go after Rolloson instead of grooming Legace. Rolloson is not an elite goal tender, but Edmonton's strong defense is what made them unstopable. I don't think the answer is Osgood or seeking out Belfour, but hanging in there with Manny and getting some strong, physical defenseman. Shanny has terrific regular seasons, but is absent come play off. I would like to see Yzerman go out with a cup and think he will make a difference if he stays healthy. Lidstrom is not as great as he used to be, and all Chelios does is whine. The Wings need a strong, young, and physical team. Holland tends to look at goaltending without considering the defense. Granted, Legace let up some soft goals, but Edmonton's unbeliveable amount of blocked shots is what put the Wings away.
The Wings should dump Holland and find a GM that looks at the whole picture.
Groom Legace and maybe put Jimmy Howard as back-up and then scout for some physical defensemen.
hold it, hold it, chelios is one of our best defenseman. lids won the norris. need i say more?:rolleyes:

Chelios and schnider together made a great team last year.. and Lidstrom is a class act. I dont know how you can say all this about these players.. and what is it in particular that chelios whines about? he is no whiner. im sorry.. i think you must have him confused in your mind with someone else. that has to be it!

Shanahan as well as many did not show for the playoffs.. ya know, if your wanting that all to happen, what you are saying, how bout we just get rid of the whole team?!!?!?! i mean ultimately, your getting rid of some of their best players. im just going to :rolleyes:
 

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According to sources, the Bruins have spoken with free agent winger Brendan Shanahan, 37, who posted 39-39-78 totals last year in Detroit.

Shanahan, who resides in Massachusetts, apparently wants to play for the Bruins. But it may be the sides are not in agreement on what he is worth. After earning $6.5, $6, $7 and $6.5 million in the four seasons before the lockout, Shanahan dropped this past season to $2.280 million with the Wings.

There was a New York Post report this weekend of past friction between Shanahan and Dave Lewis. The B’s new coach was behind the Wings’ bench for two seasons with Shanahan on the roster. . . .

- Boston Herald
 

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we will see.. i was thinking more along the lines of toronto if he did go anywhere.

did he say he wanted to play for them? was there some interview with shanny that is not being shared? i mean if so please bring it on up.

if not.. rumor mills like that amount to nothing..
 
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