Naslund wants to play in the NHL

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datsun260z

Discussion Starter · Jun 18, 2008

http://sportsnet.ca/thewire/hockey/2008/06/18/naslund_watch_unrestricted/

Sounds to me like he's going to make sure hes playing on a team that fits what he believes to be his style. Which means, if Gillis brings in the right people he would be interested in player here. He also sounds ready to take a pay cut, sounds to me like playing in a good environment is important....

hmmm

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AtLossForWords

· #2 · Jun 19, 2008

I think Naslund's going to be a gun for hire come July 1st. Huselius will probably come over here from Calgary. His lack of production in the playoffs is a cause for concern, but he does seem like an animated guy on the ice who will go to tough areas.

I think if Huselius really wants to play here and get away from Iron Mike, he's an addition that would be a step in the right direction.

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flyerfan2

· #3 · Jun 19, 2008

Sorry but all i see in the artical is me me me from markus .

A quality that was the reason the selfish prick should never have been captain.

Don't let the door hit you in the @ss on the way out markus.

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puck_monkey

· #4 · Jun 19, 2008

flyerfan2 said:
Sorry but all i see in the artical is me me me from markus .

A quality that was the reason the selfish prick should never have been captain.

Don't let the door hit you in the @ss on the way out markus.

That's the samething I've seen from this guy since Keenan kick his a*s and then he became this superstar with an attitude. This is soo Thomas Gradin - remember this so called superstar Swed who did nothing in the 1982 playoffs expect avoiding the hits from opponents. Spazzy's history in Nucksville.

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prucha_for_mvp

· #5 · Jun 19, 2008

flyerfan2 said:
Sorry but all i see in the artical is me me me from markus .

A quality that was the reason the selfish prick should never have been captain.

Don't let the door hit you in the @ss on the way out markus.

You don't want to give the guy a little credit or gratitude before he leaves? He's been with us for a number of years and has certainly paid his dues. Unfortunately he was slacking off this year. I respect the guy for what he's done for this club on and off the ice. Glad to see him go but I definetly won't forget his services from past years.

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gordfish

· #6 · Jun 19, 2008

puck_monkey said:
That's the samething I've seen from this guy since Keenan kick his a*s and then he became this superstar with an attitude. This is soo Thomas Gradin - remember this so called superstar Swed who did nothing in the 1982 playoffs expect avoiding the hits from opponents. Spazzy's history in Nucksville.

We must have been watching two entirely different teams. Gradin was a huge part of that run, and the only player on that team with true NHL-calibre skill. Without him, the Canucks get completely blown out in games 1 and 2 in Long Island.

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datsun260z

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jun 19, 2008

prucha_for_mvp said:
You don't want to give the guy a little credit or gratitude before he leaves? He's been with us for a number of years and has certainly paid his dues. Unfortunately he was slacking off this year. I respect the guy for what he's done for this club on and off the ice. Glad to see him go but I definetly won't forget his services from past years.

I gotta go with prucha here, I mean the guy did play with 20 + forwards in the last two plus years....hard to find consistency under those circumstances. I do think V should shoulder some of the disappointment we all share in Naslunds production.

Not to jump all over ya dougie. :beer:bt cause I do feel your frustration too.

Regardless of it all, sure is nice to see some Canuck talk around these parts of late! Welcome back to all those who've been on the lamb!

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canadiancreed

· #8 · Jun 21, 2008

SO does he want to play, or play around? Kind of givign mixed messages there from this side of the screen.

You don't want to give the guy a little credit or gratitude before he leaves?

Is he giving the Canucks and fans any of that in return?

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gordfish

· #9 · Jun 27, 2008

So here are all the answers to Vancouver's roster problems at forward this year...

First, take Bertuzzi off of re-entry waivers. There's 2 million.

Next, resign Naslund to a one year 3 million dollar contract with a few performance bonuses thrown in.

Then, sign Hossa. Say 8 million per there, or Gillis could get creative and get him signed to one of those long term deals that are front end loaded but keep his annual salary somewhere around 5 or 6 million.

Then you bring Morrison in on a one year deal for 2.5 million or so.

So your forwards begin to look like this...

Daniel / Henrik / Hossa
Naslund / Morrison / Bertuzzi
Raymond / Kesler / Pyatt
Pettinger / Wellwood / Burrows
Cowan / Rypien / Brown

I can't be sure if I'm just being sarcastic or I think that might really give them a shot at a Cup next season.

At first I was just playing around. But then I got to thinking about it.

Daniel and Henrik could push the 90 point mark with Hossa, who could easily get 40 goals and 80 to 90 points himself on that line.

Then, even if Bert and Nazzy only managed 60 to 70 points each on the second line and Morrison chipped in with his standard 50 to 60, that would still be pretty good numbers for a second line.

All three of Raymond, Kesler and Pyatt could step up into top 6 duty for limited stretches if called upon, and I think all three could threaten the 20 goal mark, even limited to third line minutes.

Pettinger and Wellwood would certainly give their fourth line more skill than it has seen in a long, long time, and Burrows has showed strong versatlity that could make him one of those players you could plug into the other three lines if you need a little energy.

For added grit, any one of Cowan, Brown or Rypien would do well enough over short stretches.

The only question would be whether or not taking that approach would leave them enough cap room to add some depth to the defense.

I dunno. I think it might be worth a shot. When the WCE was peaking, the team's problems were goaltending and the lack of a second scoring line. Certainly with that lineup, those two problems would be addressed.

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JL

· #10 · Jun 27, 2008

gordfish said:
So here are all the answers to Vancouver's roster problems at forward this year...

First, take Bertuzzi off of re-entry waivers. There's 2 million.

Next, resign Naslund to a one year 3 million dollar contract with a few performance bonuses thrown in.

Then, sign Hossa. Say 8 million per there, or Gillis could get creative and get him signed to one of those long term deals that are front end loaded but keep his annual salary somewhere around 5 or 6 million.

Then you bring Morrison in on a one year deal for 2.5 million or so.

So your forwards begin to look like this...

Daniel / Henrik / Hossa
Naslund / Morrison / Bertuzzi
Raymond / Kesler / Pyatt
Pettinger / Wellwood / Burrows
Cowan / Rypien / Brown

I can't be sure if I'm just being sarcastic or I think that might really give them a shot at a Cup next season.

At first I was just playing around. But then I got to thinking about it.

Daniel and Henrik could push the 90 point mark with Hossa, who could easily get 40 goals and 80 to 90 points himself on that line.

Then, even if Bert and Nazzy only managed 60 to 70 points each on the second line and Morrison chipped in with his standard 50 to 60, that would still be pretty good numbers for a second line.

All three of Raymond, Kesler and Pyatt could step up into top 6 duty for limited stretches if called upon, and I think all three could threaten the 20 goal mark, even limited to third line minutes.

Pettinger and Wellwood would certainly give their fourth line more skill than it has seen in a long, long time, and Burrows has showed strong versatlity that could make him one of those players you could plug into the other three lines if you need a little energy.

For added grit, any one of Cowan, Brown or Rypien would do well enough over short stretches.

The only question would be whether or not taking that approach would leave them enough cap room to add some depth to the defense.

I dunno. I think it might be worth a shot. When the WCE was peaking, the team's problems were goaltending and the lack of a second scoring line. Certainly with that lineup, those two problems would be addressed.

I like the way you're thinking, but I think that Hossa will be the most overpaid player amongst UFAs and for whatever reason, I don't see him coming to Van-City as I'm anticipating him getting over $10 million a season due to the demand, not his value as a player.

I do love the fact that you're reuniting the Naslund - Morrison - Bertuzzi line but a more realistic UFA to play with the Sedins, and much cheaper than Hossa, would be Michael Ryder. He's improved his defense immensely last season but for whatever reason, things didn't fall into place for him. He's be a great finisher for the Sedins, ala Anson Carter.

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gordfish

· #11 · Jun 27, 2008 (Edited)

JL said:
I like the way you're thinking, but I think that Hossa will be the most overpaid player amongst UFAs and for whatever reason, I don't see him coming to Van-City as I'm anticipating him getting over $10 million a season due to the demand, not his value as a player.

I do love the fact that you're reuniting the Naslund - Morrison - Bertuzzi line but a more realistic UFA to play with the Sedins, and much cheaper than Hossa, would be Michael Ryder. He's improved his defense immensely last season but for whatever reason, things didn't fall into place for him. He's be a great finisher for the Sedins, ala Anson Carter.

I don't see anyone paying Hossa 10 million per. They may pay him a deal that sees him make 10 million over the first 1 to 3 seasons and averages out to 6 or 7 mil per, but there is just no way anyone will make him the highest paid player in the league. I don't care what the market is like.

And when you hear that the Canucks, Bruins and Oilers are the most interested teams, it would be even more unlikely. None of those teams have historically been known to hand out monster contracts.

If Hossa does think he's getting 10 mil per season, and that's what is scaring off teams like the Habs and Rangers, then I don't even see him playing in the NHL next year. He'll take the money from the Russian Super League that is being thrown around right now.

I just don't see anyone paying one player 10 or 11 million per season in the NHL when that money represents a full fifth of your cap space.

There are a lot of stupid GMs and owners out there, I'll grant you, but even the dumbest of the lot aren't that crazy.

As for Ryder, I think that if they are going to go with the Sedins then they have to shat or get off the pot when it comes to their winger. Stop slapping band-aids over the problem with coulda, woulda, shoulda reclamation projects and get them a proven 40 to 50 goal scorer.

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KB in Kelowna

· #12 · Jun 28, 2008

gordfish said:
I don't see anyone paying Hossa 10 million per. They may pay him a deal that sees him make 10 million over the first 1 to 3 seasons and averages out to 6 or 7 mil per, but there is just no way anyone will make him the highest paid player in the league. I don't care what the market is like.

And when you hear that the Canucks, Bruins and Oilers are the most interested teams, it would be even more unlikely. None of those teams have historically been known to hand out monster contracts.

If Hossa does think he's getting 10 mil per season, and that's what is scaring off teams like the Habs and Rangers, then I don't even see him playing in the NHL next year. He'll take the money from the Russian Super League that is being thrown around right now.

I just don't see anyone paying one player 10 or 11 million per season in the NHL when that money represents a full fifth of your cap space.

There are a lot of stupid GMs and owners out there, I'll grant you, but even the dumbest of the lot aren't that crazy.

As for Ryder, I think that if they are going to go with the Sedins then they have to shat or get off the pot when it comes to their winger. Stop slapping band-aids over the problem with coulda, woulda, shoulda reclamation projects and get them a proven 40 to 50 goal scorer.

I would like to see the Hossa I saw in the playoffs in Vancouver. As for the return of Bert, with the Moore lawsuit still pending I am just not sure if he will be able to focus and contribute. With his going on wiavers from the Ducks I suppose that pts an end to my Naslund to Anaheim to replace Selanne theory.:dunno:

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