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I don't know why you Leaf fans just don't give up! The Leafs suck, you have to realize that they won't make the playoffs this year. Especially with players like Anthropov, Kaberle, Mcabe, and Sundin on the team. Ferggy J.R. should have been fired a long time ago.

On the remote chance that they do make the playoffs they will quickly exit 4-0, wouldn't matter who they play against, even Philly would knock them out in 4.

I gave up on the Leafs 2 years ago, finally smartened up and went with a real team/organization, the Habs. You guys/girls should wake up and do the same!
 

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In all honesty, I do sometimes ask that question myself.

Then I realise that (at least in my case) with all the pain and agony this organisation continues to put its fans through, the people running the team are getting older. I'm not exactly old, so I would say it makes sense for now... maybe in 10 years if things continue to go the same way then I'll have to think up a exit plan, but not any time soon.

The small glimmer of hope will continue to be the young talent that the Leafs currently have (Kyle Wellwood, Alexander Steen, Matt Stajan, Carlo Colaiacovo on roster, and prospect Justin Pogge). And yes, I'm well aware that we will have to continue to hope that they don't get traded away ala "long list of Leafs that management didn't like".

As for the players you named above: Yes, I'll agree that about Nik Antropov and Bryan McCabe aren't of much help, but Tomas Kaberle and Mats Sundin do have their uses. Kaberle is a good offencive defenceman for the team, and Sundin... well he's only the best player the team has had for quite a while now. He may leave if h wishes. I actually prefer it really, he deserves better than what the rest of us fans have to go through. He deserves his Stanley Cup, and I don't blame him if he remembers is 35 year old now and finally bolts.

You being a Habs fan, I know the first thing you'll want is for us to jump ship and join you guys... or just leave the team for the sake of it being Toronto. That's the way it is, and the way it likely always will be.

But, no. With all the non-movement this team has and will have on Trade Deadline day for years to come, and with all the complaints I'll have to throw out on them for yet another mid-boggling move, I'll say what I've said years ago when this garbage started to surface with the newer guys in the MLSE:

I'm in it for the long haul, and if I'm in it for the long haul then I'll have to bear the boneheadedness of the people running the organisation. Why? Because I'll always remember that I was cheering them on before the "Peddies", and "JFJs", and etc came along.

They're no the Leafs I cheered for, the Blue and White, and the players that have come and gone to thrill me time and time again on the ice (Gilmour, Nieuwendyk, Joseph, Roberts, etc), or the grit that gave them a bit of hope (Tucker).

They're just the guys who came along to make a mess of things. That's how I see it.
 

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well I've been a leafsfan since the day i was born (according to my father).. and pretty much in short, im not a dumb hockey fan, i realize that the leafs arent going to win the cup this year, and probably not next year, and who knows how long it will be till they do win. But i am a true fan. the leafs are my team, and i will stick with them through the good and the bad, sure it would be great to see them win the cup, but if they haev a bad season , doesnt mean im going to start cheering for another team, i am no bandwagon fan.

If the leafs do however win the cup sometime in the future, it will be that much more exciting, and meaningful knowing that i have stuck with them through sooo many years, dissapointments, slumps and streaks!

GO LEAFS GO!
 

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Guys like Sundin and Kaberle should not be blamed at all for thier lack of success. Those guys come to play everynight. All Sundin needs is a decent pair of wingers to play beside him because hes a hell of a talent. Even though I hate the leafs Sundin is definetly one of my favourite players because this guy just doesnt give up and he is so physically strong and a great leader. Same with Kaberle he always comes to play and is a great defenceman and definetly deserves to be an all-star. But guys like Mccabe and antrapov have got to go. I dont understand why everything thinks Mccabe is so good:dunno: He has a big slapshot and thats about it. He hasnt really impressed me. But even though I hate the leafs and am a huge Habs fan guys like Sundin, Kaberle and even Ponikarosky are not guys people should be blaming. There all great players
 

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I support my teams through the thick and thin. I couldn't consider myself a true fan is I just decided to support another team.

I was a Jays fan before the won the WS, I was a Raps fan since the day it was announced Toronto would get a team.

I'll be a Leafs fan until I die, there's just no way around it.
 

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shookem said:
I support my teams through the thick and thin. I couldn't consider myself a true fan is I just decided to support another team.

I was a Jays fan before the won the WS, I was a Raps fan since the day it was announced Toronto would get a team.

I'll be a Leafs fan until I die, there's just no way around it.
I agree with you shook, you dont just all of the sudden switch teams. I am a Habs fan through tough times and great times. Same with the Canucks. But you're right, you cant just give up on your team that you have been cheering for, for your whole life just because they arent doing that well.
It wouldent matter if Montreal went 0-82-0 and Toronto went 82-0-0 in one year. I would still stick beside my team and support them
 

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puckwild.com said:
I don't know why you Leaf fans just don't give up! The Leafs suck, you have to realize that they won't make the playoffs this year. Especially with players like Anthropov, Kaberle, Mcabe, and Sundin on the team. Ferggy J.R. should have been fired a long time ago.

On the remote chance that they do make the playoffs they will quickly exit 4-0, wouldn't matter who they play against, even Philly would knock them out in 4.

I gave up on the Leafs 2 years ago, finally smartened up and went with a real team/organization, the Habs. You guys/girls should wake up and do the same!
Sure they aren't that great but that doesn't mean you just jump bandwagon.
That's not being a true hockey fan.

Okay, so 40 years since they last won a cup and it'll probably be a couple more before they do but I refuse to drop my team just because they're going through a bad time.
 

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I agree with you shook, you dont just all of the sudden switch teams. I am a Habs fan through tough times and great times. Same with the Canucks. But you're right, you cant just give up on your team that you have been cheering for, for your whole life just because they arent doing that well.
It wouldent matter if Montreal went 0-82-0 and Toronto went 82-0-0 in one year. I would still stick beside my team and support them
Exactly, which is why even though there's a great rivalry between Habs and Leafs fans it's built on respect because each side knows what the other has had to go through.


Leafs 'till I die!
 

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Cass-Loves_the.Leafs said:
Sure they aren't that great but that doesn't mean you just jump bandwagon.
That's not being a true hockey fan.

Okay, so 40 years since they last won a cup and it'll probably be a couple more before they do but I refuse to drop my team just because they're going through a bad time.
Congrats on your 100th post Cass! Look at the flashy new user title, no longer looking to be drafted, you're offically a rookie now!
 
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