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This happened last weekend in a game between the Oshawa Generals and the Kingston Forntenacs. LaBardo hits Grubauer with a vicious elbow and then Gudbranson follows up with a elbow of his own. Gudbranson was suspended 8 games and LaBardo 5. I personally don't see how you can penalize Gudbranson stiffer than LaBardo when he was the one who threw the cheap shot. Here's a link, and yes I know the video sucks but tell me what you think.

By the way what's up with guys hitting Grubauer?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi_0swwSN7g
 

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Both should get a suspension but i think it should be the same number of games. LaBardo went for the goalie ... ai i can see why Gudbranson went after him but an elbow probably isn't the best was to get the guy for elbowing your goalie.
 

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Both should get a suspension but i think it should be the same number of games. LaBardo went for the goalie ... ai i can see why Gudbranson went after him but an elbow probably isn't the best was to get the guy for elbowing your goalie.
Yeah and elbow to the head probably wasn't the best retaliation. He shouldn't have done that but that he was suspended for 3 more games is ridiculous to me.
 

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I'm not even sure Labardo actually makes contact with Grubauer's head, it desperately needs another angle or at least a better quality feed. It looks like his head doesn't even move until well after Labardo has already passed by him. The video provided shows Labardo turning to miss Grubauer and being tripped by him sticking out his left leg just as much as it shows Labardo viciously elbowing Grubauer. It's a pretty bad video to try to make the call on.

As far as Gudbranson being suspended for longer, it's completely understandable. It's an elbow, it's a charge, it's a head shot and it's after the whistle had gone. Let's not forget that he got a 5 game suspension in December for a hit to the head of Fontana (during a game where his team was losing 6-0) and was involved in an incident involving Garret Ross and Nathan Moon the night following this Labardo incident in which he jumped in as a third man and received a ten minute misconduct. The fact that he's a repeat offender and has a couple of incidents in the same weekend obviously has to be taken into account when handling something like this. Gudbranson brings a mean-streak and has straddled the line for pretty much this entire season, but you can't deny that he has crossed that line a couple of times this season. There are factors more than just the Labardo situations that came into play when determining his suspension.

As far as Grubauer, he's got a reputation as a diver and whiner in the OHL. He also never stops chirping on the ice, partially because he knows that guys can't actually touch him. That's what I gathered from what Archibald and a couple others have said about him, at least.
 

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I'm not even sure Labardo actually makes contact with Grubauer's head, it desperately needs another angle or at least a better quality feed. It looks like his head doesn't even move until well after Labardo has already passed by him. The video provided shows Labardo turning to miss Grubauer and being tripped by him sticking out his left leg just as much as it shows Labardo viciously elbowing Grubauer. It's a pretty bad video to try to make the call on.

As far as Gudbranson being suspended for longer, it's completely understandable. It's an elbow, it's a charge, it's a head shot and it's after the whistle had gone. Let's not forget that he got a 5 game suspension in December for a hit to the head of Fontana (during a game where his team was losing 6-0) and was involved in an incident involving Garret Ross and Nathan Moon the night following this Labardo incident in which he jumped in as a third man and received a ten minute misconduct. The fact that he's a repeat offender and has a couple of incidents in the same weekend obviously has to be taken into account when handling something like this. Gudbranson brings a mean-streak and has straddled the line for pretty much this entire season, but you can't deny that he has crossed that line a couple of times this season. There are factors more than just the Labardo situations that came into play when determining his suspension.

As far as Grubauer, he's got a reputation as a diver and whiner in the OHL. He also never stops chirping on the ice, partially because he knows that guys can't actually touch him. That's what I gathered from what Archibald and a couple others have said about him, at least.
The video sucks and you're right you can't really tell if he hits Grubauer in the head from that, but if the OHL gave him a 5 game suspension (and as far as I'm aware he's never done anything like this before) I feel like he must have hit him in the head.

I feel that Gudbranson obviously could have handled the situation much better but to suspend him for longer makes no sense to me. To me it sends the OHL players the wrong message. LaBardo throws what appears to be a cheapshot, and Gudbranson stands up for his Goalie and gets three more games. It was a head shot but so was LaBardo's. I just don't see how Gudbranson gets a stiffer penalty.

Grubauer kind of reminds me of Fluerry. He seems to be a bit of a diver and whiner so I can see why guys would wanna hit him.
 

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The video sucks and you're right you can't really tell if he hits Grubauer in the head from that, but if the OHL gave him a 5 game suspension (and as far as I'm aware he's never done anything like this before) I feel like he must have hit him in the head.
If he does makes contact with the head, then it's very little contact. Labardo hit Grubauer in the head at that speed and the only result was Grubauer's helmet coming off, something that pretty much any goaltender knows how to make happen. A split-second later, he's skating towards where Gudbranson/Labardo/everybody else is.

I feel that Gudbranson obviously could have handled the situation much better but to suspend him for longer makes no sense to me. To me it sends the OHL players the wrong message. LaBardo throws what appears to be a cheapshot, and Gudbranson stands up for his Goalie and gets three more games. It was a head shot but so was LaBardo's. I just don't see how Gudbranson gets a stiffer penalty.
You really don't see how someone who was already suspended for five games for a hit to the head this season gets that factored into this suspension? If they didn't factor that in, then that would send the wrong message to OHL players where they aren't even held responsible for their actions when it happens in the same season.

I'm fine with saying that this suspension is 5 games for the hit where he targeted Labardo's head (which is pretty much automatic) and 3 additional games for his second offense this season. Seems in line to me.
 

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If he does makes contact with the head, then it's very little contact. Labardo hit Grubauer in the head at that speed and the only result was Grubauer's helmet coming off, something that pretty much any goaltender knows how to make happen. A split-second later, he's skating towards where Gudbranson/Labardo/everybody else is.



You really don't see how someone who was already suspended for five games for a hit to the head this season gets that factored into this suspension? If they didn't factor that in, then that would send the wrong message to OHL players where they aren't even held responsible for their actions when it happens in the same season.

I'm fine with saying that this suspension is 5 games for the hit where he targeted Labardo's head (which is pretty much automatic) and 3 additional games for his second offense this season. Seems in line to me.
I don't think that Gudbranson's penalty was too stiff, I feel that they should both be suspended for the same amount of games though. I would love to see a better feed of the hit but I'm just thinking if he was suspended for 5 games he probably hit him in the head. And I understand Gudbranson already has been suspended this year. But in this case I think you give them both 5 or both 8 or both the same amount of games. It seems like what LaBardo was a cheap shot and Gudbranson never has to elbow him in the head if that never happens.

So what I'm saying is Gudbranson's suspension is a direct result of LaBardo's. If LaBardo doesn't elbow Grubauer then Gudbranson is never forced to retaliate. So I think the suspensions should be the same length whether it be 5,6,7, or 8 games.
 
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