Flames, Oilers and Canucks rivalry

All around better??? Come on Calgary as a city doesn't create the type of fans that Edmonton does. Too transiant of a place.

Rids said:

All around better??? Come on Calgary as a city doesn't create the type of fans that Edmonton does. Too transiant of a place.

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What the kind of fans that need police to prevent a riot on Edmontons poor version of The Red Mile (The Blue Mile)....lol Come on you got to be kidding me. Plus Calgary has the #1 selling jersey in the NHL the C of red isn't fake like some teams. And look at last nights playoff game vs the Sharks it was the fans who kept this team in it.

I have to admit, a lot of fans jumped on the bandwagon in '04. But, we've now converted them to real fans, and they enjoy Fames hockey for what it is. And as far as I know, Burke is still on speaking terms with Sutter.

Calgary and real fans? Hilarious. There are so many office types in Calgary who own a jersey and are "fans", yet wont be able to tell you who any of the new players are, or who anyone is outside of the top set of players.
I went to my companies office in Calgary during the Oilers run to the finals, and there were Oiler flags everywhere, you sure as hell didnt see that in Edmonton 2 years prior with Flames flags.

The people out on the Red mile during the Flames run were people wanting to get drunk in the best part of town, I find it hard to believe even half were Flames fans.
You can not compare the majority of the Oil fan base to the Flames, because it isnt close.

Yes, Flames have some of the most die hard fans, but the Flames fan base in general? Fake and weak.

Vancover or Edmonton

Ok Flames fans, what team do you hate most and why?

Edmonton and always will be Edmonton. We have a great rivalry with the Canucks as well, but The Oilers/Flames are one of the best ever.

Edmonton: Dirtiest, greasiest team in the league hands down. They play clutch grab and the trap, they run borderline obstruction and I wouldn't doubt McTavish encourages it. Watching that cup run made my blood boil for those reasons and because of the fans (Id rather not get into detail on that one :redface

BTW: Looking forward to see Bertuzzi's return to Vancouver and for that reason I'd bet that the Flames will be their most hated team this year.

I say Olilers only because I hate the fans and the lame jokes they tell. I think I rather put up with Leaf and Habs fans.

I see someone checked Vancover, must be one of our Oil members.

Therapist_Joe said:

Edmonton: Dirtiest, greasiest team in the league hands down. They play clutch grab and the trap, they run borderline obstruction and I wouldn't doubt McTavish encourages it. Watching that cup run made my blood boil for those reasons and because of the fans (Id rather not get into detail on that one :redface

BTW: Looking forward to see Bertuzzi's return to Vancouver and for that reason I'd bet that the Flames will be their most hated team this year.

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You call the oil dirty? Robyn Regehr is as dirty as they come.

Its funny you call the oil clutching and grabbing, Cause the Flames excelled at clutching and grabbing when they made there cup run and once that was eliminated they haven't done anything in the playoffs. :laugh:

Badat said:

You call the oil dirty? Robyn Regehr is as dirty as they come.

Its funny you call the oil clutching and grabbing, Cause the Flames excelled at clutching and grabbing when they made there cup run and once that was eliminated they haven't done anything in the playoffs. :laugh:

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Haha, I was almost expecting a lame joke...

I was reffering to something more a little recent. Don't you have when in defense of someone else's comments all oiler fans always go on the offense. This being a perfect example badat says Regehr's a dirty player after I call the oilers a clutch grab team. I'd find it hard to argue against the oilers running obstruction.

Therapist_Joe said:

Haha, I was almost expecting a lame joke...

I was reffering to something more a little recent. Don't you have when in defense of someone else's comments all oiler fans always go on the offense. This being a perfect example badat says Regehr's a dirty player after I call the oilers a clutch grab team. I'd find it hard to argue against the oilers running obstruction.

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though you aren't able to defend the fact that your team was nothing but a clutch and grab team that as soon as they couldn't do it anymore they don't go anywhere in the playoffs.

Badat said:

though you aren't able to defend the fact that your team was nothing but a clutch and grab team that as soon as they couldn't do it anymore they don't go anywhere in the playoffs.

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How am I to defend the fact that they're not a clutch grab team? It's not like anyone can prove it either way, but I'm saying this is an observation I've made in the past and even in the pre-season. It's something they depend on when-ever an opponent has a step on them.

Therapist_Joe said:

How am I to defend the fact that they're not a clutch grab team? It's not like anyone can prove it either way, but I'm saying this is an observation I've made in the past and even in the pre-season. It's something they depend on when-ever an opponent has a step on them.

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Yet you belittle the oilers and say they're clutch and grab, but admit your team does it aswell sow what does that say about your team or your views?

Badat said:

Yet you belittle the oilers and say they're clutch and grab, but admit your team does it aswell sow what does that say about your team or your views?

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I never admitted the Flames play clutch-grab...
They did a little in the cup run 04 but that was a completely different NHL then. What I said was there's absolutely no way I can prove the oilers depend on obstruction to slow the game down. You don't have to agree with me, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who notices this.

Also, I'm not necessarily belittling the Oilers in saying this. As long as they get away with it it's to their benefit.

Therapist_Joe said:

I never admitted the Flames play clutch-grab...
They did a little in the cup run 04 but that was a completely different NHL then. What I said was there's absolutely no way I can prove the oilers depend on obstruction to slow the game down. You don't have to agree with me, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who notices this.

Also, I'm not necessarily belittling the Oilers in saying this. As long as they get away with it it's to their benefit.

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And I point out the fact and I watched it that the flames depended on the clutch and grab style and since that style was eliminated for the most part they've had no succes in the playoffs.

Badat said:

And I point out the fact and I watched it that the flames depended on the clutch and grab style and since that style was eliminated for the most part they've had no succes in the playoffs.

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I wouldn't say there's been no success in the playoffs, each year the made big steps forward and gained experience. Last year it came down to blowing game 7 against the sharks, but up until then they looked to be a very capable team. This year there's a lot of promise given from this experience and a decent roster, but there's still a lot of factors that could affect their course.

Therapist_Joe said:

I wouldn't say there's been no success in the playoffs, each year the made big steps forward and gained experience. Last year it came down to blowing game 7 against the sharks, but up until then they looked to be a very capable team. This year there's a lot of promise given from this experience and a decent roster, but there's still a lot of factors that could affect their course.

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That being said since the style in the NHL changed and skating rather then coasting became more dominant the flames haven't made a leap in the playoffs.

I admit the oilers used a trap style on there cup run to beat the puck position team in the Wings, but I don't think they're a clutch and grab team in anyway. This is not to say they don't take holding penalties like any team, no this is to say that they don't rely on holding onto players to slow them up or gain the advantage blatantly and regularly.