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I'm pretty sure he was referring to Kiprusoff and Phaneuf when he made that statement. Iginla and Regehr seem like players that will do what they are asked of. Although I could always be wrong.
From what Conroy said last week on the fan 960 is that the room is divided.

Jerome and Dion wanting to play a offensive style of play. On the other side Reggie wanting to play a more defensive style. I came to a conclusion two weeks ago after reading Regehr's comments regarding Keenan (his old ways suck) and then Iginla saying he wanted Keenan to finish out his contract. I think Flames fans worst fear is coming to life: the room might in fact be split between Iginla and Regehr.

I don't like the sounds of this.:n
 

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From what Conroy said last week on the fan 960 is that the room is divided.

Jerome and Dion wanting to play a offensive style of play. On the other side Reggie wanting to play a more defensive style. I came to a conclusion two weeks ago after reading Regehr's comments regarding Keenan (his old ways suck) and then Iginla saying he wanted Keenan to finish out his contract. I think Flames fans worst fear is coming to life: the room might in fact be split between Iginla and Regehr.

I don't like the sounds of this.:n
A scary thought, but Sutter can't leave the team in the state it is in. If it comes down to Iginla or Regehr I'd imagine it'd be Iggy staying. If the room was split in half though I'd imagine there'll be a few other trades. As scary as losing Regehr is, we still have him signed to a good contract and will be able to get a lot of value for him.

Sutter may just think the problem is solvable and come in and put everyone back in their place, after all he is a very good coach.
 

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From what Conroy said last week on the fan 960 is that the room is divided.

Jerome and Dion wanting to play a offensive style of play. On the other side Reggie wanting to play a more defensive style. I came to a conclusion two weeks ago after reading Regehr's comments regarding Keenan (his old ways suck) and then Iginla saying he wanted Keenan to finish out his contract. I think Flames fans worst fear is coming to life: the room might in fact be split between Iginla and Regehr.

I don't like the sounds of this.:n
Wow. That's surprising. Hopefully Sutter could get things fixed in the locker room.
 

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Iginla finalist for NHL leadership award

Calgary Flames captain Jarome Iginla is one of three finalists for the 2008-09 Mark Messier NHL Leadership Award, the National Hockey League announced...more


I have mixed feeling about this if what they say is true in the locker room.
 

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Playfair has been names Abbotsford's head coach :bt

I'm really happy he took the job instead of leaving the Flames, the thought that he could be coaching in Minnisota was killing me.

I have a feeling this sets the stage for Sutter taking over as head coach next year because he won't have the time to be going back and forth between the AHL and NHL games so he'll need someone he can trust with Abbotsford.

I believe the last time Playfair coached an affiliate team it was in 2001 with the St. Johns Flames and he took them to a Calder Cup win with a very young roster.
 

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The Flames have re-signed Curtis McElhinney
I'd expect him to get a few more starts next year.

Personnally, I wouldn't mind him splitting the first 30 games with Kipper then slowly putting Kipper in more and more down the last half of the season.
 

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Heatley for Phaneuf

Is this something we as fans would like to see?

I'd say no but if this is a possible trade Heatley will be back in his home town of Calgary. Could that be a bonus for the Flames? Would this free up cap space? I HATE TRADE RUMORS!!!
 

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Iginla takes home leadership award

Jarome Iginla idolized Mark Messier growing up, and Thursday night at the 2009 NHL Awards show, the captain came away with the Mark Messier NHL Leadership Award which recognizes excellence in leadership on and off the ice...more
 

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Flames trade for Bouwmeester

Flames General Manager Darryl Sutter traded Jordan Leopold and the #67 pick to the Florida Panthers for Jay Bowmeester.

Just for the rights!
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Bad move Sutter!
 

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Flames General Manager Darryl Sutter traded Jordan Leopold and the #67 pick to the Florida Panthers for Jay Bowmeester.

Just for the rights!
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Bad move Sutter!
I think its a good move. Sutter will get him signed. And even if for some reason he can't all we lose is the #67 pick. Leopold wasn't going to be back anyways
 

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I think its a good move. Sutter will get him signed. And even if for some reason he can't all we lose is the #67 pick. Leopold wasn't going to be back anyways
Agreed, I got a good feeling they'll be able to sign him anyways.

The question is: once bouwmeester is signed what will happen to Phaneuf? It would be great if they could keep him, I don't think they'll have the cap space to do so. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out, it might help the situation that the cap went up slightly.

Weather they keep Phaneuf or not this is a good move since there's extra player value in the system. I think it's funny how Sutter said yesterday how he didn't plan to make any major changes then the next day he makes 2 trades.
 

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Agreed, I got a good feeling they'll be able to sign him anyways.

The question is: once bouwmeester is signed what will happen to Phaneuf? It would be great if they could keep him, I don't think they'll have the cap space to do so. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out, it might help the situation that the cap went up slightly.

Weather they keep Phaneuf or not this is a good move since there's extra player value in the system. I think it's funny how Sutter said yesterday how he didn't plan to make any major changes then the next day he makes 2 trades.
Dion will stay, I'm sure of it. Sutter Probably wants the big 3 there. You can tell Sutter is gonna get it done. He is already clearing room for the signing. Vandermeer is gone, were getting Prust back.
 

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Flames General Manager Darryl Sutter traded Jordan Leopold and the #67 pick to the Florida Panthers for Jay Bowmeester.

Just for the rights!
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Bad move Sutter!
How is trading the rights to Leopold and a 3rd for the rights to Bouwmeester a bad move?

This is a brilliant trade.

Leopold is going to be a UFA and wasn't going to be brought back into the Flames fold, and the Flames traded the pick they got from trading down in the first round. The Flames still got their man in the first round and potentially flipped the second pick they got for Bouwmeester.

If Bouwmeester signs, the deal is essentially a 3rd round pick for him, since the Flames weren't losing an asset in Leopold. If he doesn't sign, then the Flames only lose a 3rd round pick. That's well worth the chance to negotiate and sign a young stud defenseman.

They could let Adrian go, that would free up much of the $$$ we need.
Aucoin is a pending UFA as well. He's not currently signed to the Flames for next season, and if he does, he won't be getting the $4M that he got prior seasons. There's already cap space available.

Also, the Flames moved Vandermeer and brought in Prust, which freed up another $1.5M.

They could easily sign Bouwmeester, allow Pardy to develop into more of a top four defenseman over the next year and then trade Sarich at the end of the year. Same could be done to Langkow if the Flames forwards develop into players that could easily replace him.

Remember, the Flames wanted to get younger. Bouwmeester helps.

If the Flames lock up Bouwmeester (let's say for the same price as Phaneuf), then their line up could easily look like this, assuming they can re-sign certain players to quality contracts.

Bourque (1.35) - Jokinen (5.2) - Iginla (7)
Moss (1.3) - Langkow (4.5) - Bertuzzi (1.5)
Glencross (1.2) - Conroy (1.05) - Greentree (0.65)
Nystrom (0.688) - Boyd (1.1) - Backlund (1.271)
Ex: Prust (0.5), random fighter (0.5)

Bouwmeester (6.5) - Phaneuf (6.5)
Sarich (3.6) - Regehr (4)
Pardy (1) - Giordano (0.892)
Ex: Pelech (0.85)

Kiprusoff (5.833)
McElhinney (0.535)

$56.169M total. Leaves the team with little wiggle room, but if Sutter feels that Sarich or Langkow could be moved without hurting the team, then that would free up a fair chunk of cap.
 

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Well according to http://nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=CGY&season=0910 they have just enough money this year to sign a contract of this size. This coming years cap is 56.8 I believe I read. They're at 47 now...so I think Daryl will be just fine. And this team will be sic. Somehow I trust he will make it work.

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How is trading the rights to Leopold and a 3rd for the rights to Bouwmeester a bad move?

This is a brilliant trade.

Leopold is going to be a UFA and wasn't going to be brought back into the Flames fold, and the Flames traded the pick they got from trading down in the first round. The Flames still got their man in the first round and potentially flipped the second pick they got for Bouwmeester.

If Bouwmeester signs, the deal is essentially a 3rd round pick for him, since the Flames weren't losing an asset in Leopold. If he doesn't sign, then the Flames only lose a 3rd round pick. That's well worth the chance to negotiate and sign a young stud defenseman.



Aucoin is a pending UFA as well. He's not currently signed to the Flames for next season, and if he does, he won't be getting the $4M that he got prior seasons. There's already cap space available.

Also, the Flames moved Vandermeer and brought in Prust, which freed up another $1.5M.

They could easily sign Bouwmeester, allow Pardy to develop into more of a top four defenseman over the next year and then trade Sarich at the end of the year. Same could be done to Langkow if the Flames forwards develop into players that could easily replace him.

Remember, the Flames wanted to get younger. Bouwmeester helps.

If the Flames lock up Bouwmeester (let's say for the same price as Phaneuf), then their line up could easily look like this, assuming they can re-sign certain players to quality contracts.

Bourque (1.35) - Jokinen (5.2) - Iginla (7)
Moss (1.3) - Langkow (4.5) - Bertuzzi (1.5)
Glencross (1.2) - Conroy (1.05) - Greentree (0.65)
Nystrom (0.688) - Boyd (1.1) - Backlund (1.271)
Ex: Prust (0.5), random fighter (0.5)

Bouwmeester (6.5) - Phaneuf (6.5)
Sarich (3.6) - Regehr (4)
Pardy (1) - Giordano (0.892)
Ex: Pelech (0.85)

Kiprusoff (5.833)
McElhinney (0.535)

$56.169M total. Leaves the team with little wiggle room, but if Sutter feels that Sarich or Langkow could be moved without hurting the team, then that would free up a fair chunk of cap.

I don't think they can afford Bert and 1.5m, they need wiggle room so they can dress more than 12 guys in Games 80-82 this year. I see a guy like David Van Der Gulik or Brett Sutter getting a good long look. Moving Primeau and his 1.5 cap hit is crucial too.
 
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