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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
From Friday's Globe and Mail
POSTED AT 8:35 AM EDT ON 11/08/06

Remember this number: $1.4-billion over 10 years. That figure could deliver the most coveted prize in Canadian sports television to CTV-TSN, according to sources.

The prize, of course, is Hockey Night in Canada, the CBC's long-time ratings leader, rights to which will expire at the end of the 2007-08 National Hockey League season.

According to insiders, NHL commissioner Gary Bettman has already talked to the CBC and CTV-TSN about the bidding process.

Two well-placed sources say Bell Globemedia, which owns CTV and TSN as well as The Globe and Mail and part of the Toronto Maple Leafs, is likely to proffer a bid that the CBC may find impossible to match -- $140-million a year for 10 years, for a total of $1.4-billion.

That would be for everything: Canadian English-language broadcast rights, cable rights, French-language rights and ownership of Internet streaming.

Right now, the CBC is paying about $65-million a year for broadcasting; TSN's cable deal is worth about $15-million; and CTV-owned RDS's Montreal Canadiens' French-language agreement is for about $12-million.

That adds up to $92-million, meaning a CTV-TSN bid of $140-million would exceed the current amount by almost $50-million a year.

Could the CBC match that offer? Not likely. For starters, it doesn't have a sports cable outlet. Therefore, it would bid only for English-language broadcast rights and perhaps French-language rights for Radio-Canada.

What's more, the future of the public broadcaster's programming mandate is unclear. Committing more than $100-million a year for one sports property would probably be seen as a non-starter.

But the CBC holds two trump cards in dealing with the NHL. One is the tradition of Hockey Night airing on the network since 1952. The second is the threat that the CBC wouldn't bid again if it loses hockey to CTV-TSN.

However, a 10-year offer by CTV-TSN would eliminate the problem of the CBC removing itself from the marketplace.

Ten years is an eternity in the TV business and the NHL wouldn't care what the competitive landscape looked like in 2018-19.

Why would CTV-TSN raise the stakes by putting $1.4-billion on the table?

Hockey telecasts are moneymakers, particularly in the postseason, when advertising rates are increased and more games are televised.

On a good year, it's believed the CBC has been making $30-million and more in profit from the hockey telecasts. The network's current rights fee of $65-million a year, therefore, is viewed by the NHL as a bargain.

If CTV-TSN were to win the rights, CTV would carry the Saturday night doubleheaders during the regular season. TSN also would provide a full schedule of regular-season games.

For the postseason, the bulk of content would air on TSN and perhaps a secondary channel, TSN2, if it received regulatory approval. CTV would air some playoffs games, probably on Saturday afternoons and evenings, then carry the full slate of Stanley Cup final telecasts.

Even if the rights fee paid by CTV-TSN were so high as to be a money loser for TSN, the network's increased access to Canadian games would raise audience figures. Some of the audience would spill over to related programming, such as SportsCentre, to improve TSN's overall numbers. And when the audience needle moves, the ad rates go up.

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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
oilers said:
i didnt quite egt it.can u explain me in ur own words!!! difficlut to understand . id didnt get the bid thing
Each of the stations has to bid to get the rights to televise the games, it's like if you were bidding on a house, the highest bidder would get the house.

Hope this helps.

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CBC is losing everything now, didn't they lose the bid on the 2010 olympics? I don't think HNIC would be the same on TSN or CTV as muhc as I love TSN. Would there still be coach's corner? Don Cherry? Ron Maclean(spelling?) won't be on so no more "theories".

Maybe with it being on TSN, we can hear Pierre McGuire get enthusiastic about Dion Phaneuf more often? "DOUBLE DION".

I guess we will have to wait and see.:dunno:

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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
Too early for decision on NHL rights


Bell Globemedia is developing strategy, but 'we're just not there yet,' official says

Bell Globemedia's interest in National Hockey League television rights is indisputable, but a top executive says a final decision on how to proceed has not been reached.

CTV president Rick Brace said yesterday the strategy of Bell Globemedia, which owns CTV and TSN as well as The Globe and Mail, is still being developed.

"We don't have a document to present to the NHL," he said. "We're just not there yet."

The NHL's agreement with the CBC will expires at the end of the 2007-08 season. Negotiations for a new contract have not started, but the league has contacted both CTV-TSN and the CBC.

We reported yesterday that Bell Globemedia's likely option would be to bid as much as $1.4-billion over 10 years for the full NHL package -- broadcast, cable, French-language and new media rights.

"That's a big number," Brace said. "We run numbers and we do that as a matter of course, and that's not something we've contemplated. We're just not there yet."

Jeff Keay, a spokesman for the CBC, would not comment on the $1.4-billion figure.

"We put a tremendous value on the CBC's relationship with the NHL and we're focused on the remaining two years," he said. "And we look forward to continuing the relationship."

Keay noted that the CBC owns the Hockey Night in Canada brand name. If TV rights went to CTV, that title could not be used.

TV sources say a 10-year deal would make sense for CTV-TSN or the CBC. A lengthy term brings with it security and the advantage of marketing a property over the long haul.

Right now, the CBC is paying about $65-million a year for English-language broadcasting rights. TSN's cable deal is worth about $15-million. And CTV-owned RDS's Montreal Canadiens' French-language agreement is for about $12-million.

That's a total of $92-million. A potential bid of $1.4-billion over 10 years breaks down to $140-million a year, a number that exceeds the current $92-million by almost $50-million.

It seems like a massive increase. On the other hand, it's widely believed that the CBC makes a large profit from its $65-million annual investment, perhaps as much as $30-million on a good year. People inside and outside the CBC refer to Hockey Night as the network's cash cow.

Potential revenue from the NHL's new media, such as mobile phones and Internet streaming, is difficult to project, a source said.

If CTV-TSN does choose to bid aggressively, the CBC would have difficulty competing. It doesn't own a sports cable outlet. Therefore, it would bid only for English-language broadcast rights and perhaps French-language rights for Radio-Canada.

As well, the future of the public broadcaster's programming mandate is unclear. Paying out more than $100-million a year for one sports property could be rejected by the CBC's executive and board of governors.

Still, some foresee a scenario in which CBC would keep the rights. After all, Hockey Night has been on the network since 1952. The NHL would be reluctant to end the viewing tradition.

If the league did re-sign with CBC, it would likely reward Bell Globemedia by improving TSN's deal. It would give the cable channel more regular-season Canadian content and also a share of postseason series involving Canadian teams. Right now, the CBC has full ownership of the Canadian playoff games.

The CBC's current deal with the NHL probably includes a right of first negotiation. That means the CBC would have a window in which it could cut a new deal without facing a competing bid.

If that failed, the NHL would go to the marketplace and solicit bids from other broadcasters.

A new contract is likely to be in place by this time next year.

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Well, get over!!!
We French Canadians lost owner hockey night in Canada (la soirée du hockey) last year and we're not dead. You all know how we (French Canadians) find culture important. It was sad, but we moved on. Besides the leafs will still have loosing seasons even if they are not on CBC. The only thing is that only the leaf fans that can afford cable will see then loose again and again.:cheeky4:

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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
oilers said:
k thanks panoo for explaining.....

awwwww cbc is only source for me to watch hockey . i am goanna cry .. no nooooooooo

i hope they win the bid but its hard

hey what channel is CTV? and in canada on what number like cbc comes on 4. where does it come
In Edmonton it's [CFRN TV], not sure where it is on the dial, where I am, it's 13, so check that number first.

Here's what's on your CTV today & tonight (August 12-2006), so when you see any of these shows at the appointed times, your on CTV.

04:00 p.m. - Alberta Horse Racing
04:30 p.m. - Sue Thomas: F.B.Eye
06:00 p.m. - CTV NEWS
07:30 p.m. - W-FIVE
08:30 p.m. - CSI New York
09:00 p.m. - Jeff Ltd
09:30 p.m. - Comedy Now!
10:30 p.m. - Comedy Inc
11:00 p.m. - CTV National News with Sandie Rinaldo
11:30 p.m. - CTV NEWS
12:00 a.m. - Viva La Bam
12:30 a.m. - Fresh Meat

CTV/TSN isn't going to happen until the 2008-2009 season, maybe by then you would have cable, or satellite dish installed.

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Discussion Starter · #10 ·
oilers said:
ya lol. thanks for all that!! i know CTV comes on channel 3 for me. i checked and its without cable. so i can watch it! but it doesnt show nhl season 2006-07?

i dont think so ryt anywayz.... thanks alot for helping
No problem, glad you found out what channel it was!!

You have nothing to worry about for this season, or next season, the games are still going to be on CBC!! :D

If it happens, it will be the 2008-2009 season.

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Discussion Starter · #11 ·
CBC's Loss A Costly Proposition

Monday, August 14, 2006
by Adam Proteau
The Hockey News

As was made completely clear during the 2004-05 lockout, the NHL’s strategic business decisions can affect a considerable and varied group of people – including thousands not under the direct employ of Gary Bettman or Ted Saskin.

Food and beverage workers (inside and outside the arenas), ushers, and those in the hockey equipment industry, among others, were forced into abrupt career changes due to the season’s cancellation. For the most part, those folks suffered in silence, with nary a multi-million-dollar war chest to offset the pain. It was a brutal reminder of the precarious economic domino structure that allows people to make their next mortgage payment, and few who felt its sting will soon forget it.

Unfortunately, we’re about to witness another evolution in the NHL’s business plans, and its ripple effect on other enterprises. This time, though, the league’s decisions have the potential not only to again increase the unemployment rate, but also to fundamentally alter the fabric of a nation.

That’s the first thought that came to mind when we heard a private Canadian company – Bell Globemedia, whose massive portfolio includes the CTV national TV network, TSN (Canada’s top sports broadcaster), and a share of the Toronto Maple Leafs – intends to drastically outbid the government-owned Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) for the rights to show NHL games.

Now, if you’re reading this outside of Canada, other thoughts may have come to mind, including (a) Huh? and (b) How could a simple transfer of broadcasting contracts change the very nature of a country?

Here’s how: The CBC currently pays some $65-million annually to air NHL games on its stations, and doesn’t charge Canadians a penny more than they pay in taxes to watch those games. In return, the network generates more than $30 million each year in advertising revenue, which helps cover the costs related to its world-renowned news services.

If the CBC loses those rights when its contract with the NHL expires at the end of the 2007-08 season – and with Bell Globemedia’s initial offer reported to be in the $140-million-a-year range for 10 years, there is little doubt it will – its biggest moneymaker will shake for the competition, and the fallout on the public broadcaster’s hard news division will be horrendous.

Hundreds, if not thousands of jobs will be lost. Important documentaries and educational programs will go un-financed, un-purchased and un-aired. Sooner than later, the CBC will become PBS minus the ponderous pledge drives, reduced to airing Engelbert Humperdinck concerts for the blue-rinse demographic.

Indeed, when we talk about NHL broadcasting rights and whether or not CBC’s legendary Hockey Night In Canada program will become mere legend, what we’re really debating are the nature and focus of Canada’s national broadcaster.

Some feel the CBC is a tax-wasting propaganda tool of the country’s political left, and deserves to be privatized post-haste. Others believe the network provides a vital public service by keeping the population informed, and should be protected from advertiser pressure by fully bankrolling it via government funds.

We’re squarely in the latter group. And that’s not because this writer has been paid to appear on CBC programming for the last few years.

All you need to do is look at some of Canada’s other private broadcasters – such as the one that decided against airing live coverage of two separate provincial elections in favor of Friends and Survivor episodes – to see what bottom-line economics and ratings fixations can do to a newsroom. The CBC’s relative independence means it can afford to avoid Brangelina, Vaughniston and other symptoms of our celebrity-smitten culture, and instead pursue stories of real and lasting civic consequence.

Regardless of your leanings on the debate, there is little doubt the CBC is approaching the biggest crossroads in its history, and it is being delivered to the intersection by the NHL’s business interests.

In this instance, Bettman and the owners can’t be faulted for pursuing the best deal for their product (although some might argue moving games from “free” TV to cable will result in a viewer drain similar to the one that took place when the league left ESPN last year for a broadcasting deal with OLN). Bell Globemedia’s offer is simply too rich for any sane business executive to reject.

There is an outside chance the federal government could attempt to keep NHL games on the CBC choose by matching the $1.4 billion offer. But seeing as Bell Globemedia is hiring hockey experts from rival networks – as well as the fact they’ve already secured the rights to the Olympic Games in 2010 and 2012 – it is likely they would go the extra mile to beat the CBC’s best offer.

So it seems undeniable, and undeniably sad, that a relationship which has seen Hockey Night aired on the CBC for nearly 55 years will soon come to an end.

Sadder still will be the new reality for Canadians who value their news untainted by the odor of commerce.
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