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15013 Views 87 Replies 9 Participants Last post by  6298 what? Goaltending was less than average throughout the majority of the playoffs, but the simple fact of why this team didn't win in the playoffs was they didn't play the way they did from Oct 26 to Feb 16 where they went 34-10-4. After that, they went 9-9-7.

They started the season 3-4-1...then figured out how to play some of the best hockey in the league for 48 games (34-10-4), and then pooped in the bed and rolled in it for the remaining 26 games going 9-9-7, giving up the top spot in the East, limping into the playoffs, and then almost getting beat by the 7 seed Sabres.

You'd think the dominant game they played in Game 7 to beat the Sabres would give them the momentum and motivation going into the second round against a team they struggled against this year and they came out as the definition of flat and never really got it going. They played solid in Game 2, but didn't get the job done in OT, then sucked in Games 3 & 4. So, the season is over.

What's the answer?

They were one of, if not the most dominant teams in the NHL for 48 games...with the same two goaltenders they took into the playoffs. Did the goaltenders have some soft games? Sure. But did the rest of the team leave them out to dry in several of them? Absolutely.

I don't think this is a coaching issue. I think the players need to look solely at themselves. Didn't help that they were missing Pronger for the playoffs and Carter for a few games.

A consistent veteran goaltender to mentor Bob couldn't help, but you don't get much better of a teammate than Boosh Bag.

I think Leino and Zherdev are two of the big question marks for UFAs. Boosh is on that list as well, but I can't see him coming back...not after game 3.

For as much as the Flyers dominate when they get the their forecheck going, there were way too many times I saw Zherdev, Leino, and Versteeg, all on different lines, try to walk the puck in and end up turning it over rather than dumping and chasing.

I'm hoping Versteeg is much better next year with a full Flyers training camp under his belt.

Thoughts? Suggestions?
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I don't think it would bother me too much to see Boucher go. As long as we got a decent goal tender to cover.

I actual like Carcillo. I'd rather see him in the team then Shelley. I'd like to see Leino given another year to prove himself. I think Zherdev, Boynton and maybe O'Donnell is gone.

Nodl, Powe and Syvret I'd like to see resigned as well.

We do have some good up and coming defenders in Bartulis, Syvret and Gustafsson.
Here's the update on Pronger
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Typically all is revealed once the season is over on injuries that occur before, during and after the playoffs.

In the case of Flyers defenseman Chris Pronger, he, as well as the media, will have to wait just a little longer.

“I’m still trying to figure it out,” said Pronger via conference call. “I have a few doctor’s appointments being set up for tomorrow, and I will know more as to my status and as to a direction where we’re headed with respect of trying to figure that out.”

Pronger continued to reveal that the tests would determine if he has a herniated disc in his back.

Although he couldn’t pin-point the exact date or cause of what kept him out of the line up for the series against Boston, he said that the symptoms got worse and worse every day.

Specifically, a herniated disc is a cushion that separates the vertebrae bones in the spine acting as shock absorbers. These discs sometimes get damaged and bulge or even break open, which causes pressure on nerves that cause pain, numbness and often affect the strength in the area of the body where the nerve is located.

While the year is still fresh in the minds of Flyers fans everywhere, personally for Pronger, he would like to forget what he calls ‘the year from hell’ after undergoing three surgeries in a nine-month span.

“I started the season with a surgery and I’m going to end it probably, who knows, whether I get another one or not,” added Pronger. “From an injury standpoint, it’s been the toughest year. You start to get back and start feeling good, and another one crops up.

"Hopefully a good summer of training and rehab on the various issues that I’ve had this year will rectify all those, and I can come into camp next year in a lot better shape, a lot healthier, and able to hopefully play 82 games next year.”

He missed the entire 2010 Training Camp, all of preseason and the first two games of the season following surgery on his knee at the end of July.

Pronger made his season debut on Oct. 11, the Flyers home opener against the Colorado where helped lead the team to a 4-2 win in over 20 minutes of ice-time.

Chris Pronger seen with bandages while interviewing with ABC6.
He continued to play the next 31 games, recording 15 points (4G-11A), but fell victim to a fracture in his foot during the Flyers’ 5-2 win at Montreal on Dec. 15.

Missing the next 13 games, Pronger remained in the Flyers line up through the end of January and most of February.

He was again sidelined for all but four games for the remainder of the regular season with an injured hand, which even though he returned to playoff action, still needs time to recover.

“My hand is still at a stage where I need to continue to work on it and get it stronger,” said Pronger. “It was to the point where I could play, but I still don’t have a lot of grip strength, still don’t have a full range of motion, and all the rest of that. It’s still where it was. I just need to continue, once I figure out the next step for my other injury, I’ve got to continue to work on it and stay on top of it, and rehab that so come summertime when I can begin my training program for the next season that there’s no issues.”

In all, Pronger’s, total man-games lost totaled out to 32 of 82 games. He posted 25 points (4G-21A)

One thing is for certain however, Pronger as well as the Flyers will have a longer recovery time than last year, and with a fully healthy Chris Pronger in the line up, they will once again kick off 2011-12 with high expectations.
That's a fair list of surgeries.

Hartnell is in for evaluation on his hip as well.
It sound's like they were so set on winning this season they put future seasons at risk by playing injured players and not letting them heal properly.
I'm really not a fan of the whole trading to get the rights to someone. Didn't work with Hamhuis at the start of this season did it?
Carcillo has been suspended for the first two games of next season due to game 4.

Philadelphia Flyers' forward Daniel Carcillo has been suspended for the period covering two regular season games, without pay, for his actions off the ice following the first period of Game #4 of the Eastern Conference Semifinals against the Boston Bruins on May 6, the National Hockey League announced today.

National Hockey League Senior Vice President of Hockey Operations Mike Murphy reached the decision following a hearing into the matter on May 13. The hearing was conducted pursuant to article 18.1 (on-ice discipline) and 18.2 (off-ice discipline) of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, NHL By-Law 17 and Article 6 of the NHL Constitution as a result of an incident outside of the officials' locker room following the first period and a verbal confrontation with linesman Brian Murphy at the players' bench prior to the start of the second period.

"Between the first and second period, while off ice and outside the officials' locker room, Mr. Carcillo engaged in aggressive behavior and inappropriate conduct directed at the officials," said Murphy. "While Mr. Carcillo acknowledged in the hearing that he regrets his actions outside of
the officials' room, there can be no defense for his conduct.

"I also reviewed the verbal confrontation between Carcillo and linesman Brian Murphy at the players' bench prior to the start of the second period and have determined that, while the verbal abuse may have been worthy of a penalty, there is no evidence that Carcillo's action merit supplemental discipline," concluded Murphy.

Carcillo will miss his club's first two regular season games in 2011-12.

The forfeited money shall go to the Players’ Emergency Assistance Fund.
I don't want to lose Carter or any of those guys, but one of them will be going I think. We have lost some great players in the last few years, but I think this off-season will take the cake.(Lupul, Upshall, Knuble, Sbisa, etc.)
HEIGHT: 6' 4" WEIGHT: 197
• Through the first round of the 2011 playoffs, he was second on the Voltigeurs with eight points (3-5--8) in their four-game series win over Chicoutimi.

• After finishing in a tie for fourth in league scoring with 96 points (36-60--96) this season, Couturier was named the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League’s Most Valuable Player, the Top 2011 Draft Prospect and selected a First-Team All-Star. He also finished second in the league with a plus-55 rating.

• He was the youngest and only draft-eligible player on Team Canada at the 2011 World Junior Hockey Championships, winning a silver medal. He also won a gold medal with Canada’s Under-18 team at the 2009 Memorial of Ivan Hlinka tournament.

• Couturier led the QMJHL in scoring with 96 points (41-55--96) in 2009-10, becoming the first 17-year-old to lead the league in scoring since Sidney Crosby of the Rimouski Oceanic in 2004-05. He also led the team with a plus-62 rating while often playing against the opposition’s top players.

• His father, Sylvain, was drafted 65th overall by Los Angeles in 1986 and played 33 games with the Kings between 1988-89 and 1991-92 – he is now the General Manager of the Acadie-Bathurst Titans in the QMJHL.

• Couturier played for the Notre Dame Hounds in 2007-08, winning the Saskatchewan Midget AAA championship alongside Jaden Schwartz (14th overall by St. Louis in 2010) and Brandon Gormley (13th overall by Phoenix in 2010).


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NHL player: Evgeni Malkin
Shootout move: “One hand”
Goal celebration: “Fist Pump”
Video game: Mario Cart and NHL
Movie: Slapshot
Actor: Adam Sandler
Restaurant: East Side Mario’s
Sport (other than hockey): Baseball and Football
Breakfast food: Pancakes
Superhero: Spiderman

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I don't know how to feel about this deal.
He is a hard hitter that helps a lot on the PK. I think we will need to find another penalty killer to replace him.
The Flyers need to find a mature experienced forward. The team is getting younger each day.

Nice, I like the way Nodl is developing. He is doing well playing 2-way. Most of his points came in the first 1/3rd of the season. He is starting to mature. I would like to have seen maybe 3yr contract. Good $'s worth for $845000 i think.
Yeah, Jagr is a bit expensive for how old and the NHL absence.
I think it will be good for all the young players to have Jagrs experience.

Flyers are after Brad Richards.

I would have liked to see Carcillo stay for some reason.
Final day of prospect camp tomorrow. Here are the teams.


Zac Rinaldo
Nick Cousins
Kyle Mountain
Tye McGinn
Brayden Schenn
Mike Testwinde
Andrew Rowe
Jason Akeson
Tom Sestito
Luke Pither

Colin Suellentrop
Kevin Marshall
Oliver Lauridsen
Vincent LoVerde
Ricard Blindstrand
Adam Phillips

Brad Phillips
Kris Westblow


Shane Harper
Matt Read
Marcel Noebels
Eric Wellwood
Sean Couturier
Michael Parks
Tyler Brown
Ben Holmstrom
Petr Placek
Derek Mathers

Nick Luukko
Erik Gustafsson
Tyler Hostetter
Michael Young
Etienne Boutet

Niko Hovinen
Eric Mihalek
Sean Bonar
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There’s no question that all eyes have been on Brayden Schenn since Flyers prospect camp started.

After five days of both on-ice and off-ice training, Schenn sure didn’t disappoint the enormous crowds at the Virtua Center Flyers Skate Zone during the final day scrimmage.

Schenn recorded a hat trick in his first game action as a Flyer, while adding an assist for a four-point total to help his team, TEAM WHITE, to a 6-3 victory.

“It was our first game in about two months, so I didn’t know what to expect going into it,” said Schenn. “All I wanted to do is come in and work hard and I got a few breaks out there.”

Schenn even recording one of his goals from a penalty shot, while his lone assist on the day saw him break out of the corner and hit a pinching Vincent LoVerde in from the point.

The game was hardly a walk in the park. It was the only scrimmage of the entire week and marked the first time players would get a chance to show their give and take on the physical aspect of the game.

“He’s just a bull on the puck,” said Flyers general manager Paul Holmgren, who with the rest of the Hockey Ops management observed most of the week’s activities from their perch above the rinks. “He’s strong on the puck, he makes good plays and he’s a very competitive kid.”

Schenn along with a majority of the players will now head back to their off-season homes to begin training.

“I learned a lot of new things from Lappy [Ian Laperriere] and the rest of the development team,” added Schenn. “Now I’m going to go home for the summer and work on that and better myself.”

How much each guy learned throughout this camp remains to be seen, but Flyers official Rookie camp leading into the eventual training camp isn’t too far away. If this camp is any indication, the Flyers have over 40 prospects that fit the mold of what it takes to be a Flyer.

“For the week, I couldn’t be more happier on how it went,” said Flyers general manager Paul Holmgren. “I think the coaches did a good job in their preparation and planning. The players did their job too. They all worked hard and did everything that was asked of them.

NOTES: Niko Hovinen shut out TEAM BLACK for the first period he was in net. It was the first action fans got to see of the 6’7’’ Finnish goaltender… Mike Testwuide had two goals in the game. It is his second prospect camp with the Flyers… All three Philadelphia-area prospects, Nick Luukko, Kyle Mountain and Tyler Hostetter all participated in the scrimmage… Flyers fans packed the team’s practice facility each day of the camp culminating in a capacity crowd for the scrimmage.
I think a lot of players need to step it up in production this season. Also, our new young guys need to really push it. A lot about this team looks uncertain right now, but i can't wait to see how pre season comp goes.
That interview is pretty good. I do hope that eventually he will nudge out Bryz in 2-4yrs and become our number one. I hope he gets some decent ice time to show that he isn't just a one time wonder. I'd love for him to play his entire career at Philadelphia like he said.
Couturier and Matt Read looked great. Rinaldos goal was awesome as well. Solid play from Bob. I'd say he will be definite backup to Bryz.
Man, that hit was wrong. I'm not really that big a fan of Shelley.

He has been suspended for the rest of the preseason and 5 regular season games. Sounds about right.
I'd agree that Shelley is worthless. I was hoping he would go during the off-season.
Bobrovsky looks to be showing up our $10M starting goalie.
JVR, Jagr, Simmonds, Couturier and even Matt Read have really been impressing in the off-season. Jagr already has 2 goals tonight.
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