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Old 12-27-2008, 02:19 PM   #31 (permalink)
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anti abortion movements really irk me.
What's wrong with pro-life movements?
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Old 01-03-2009, 09:08 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I cannot fathom why an all-powerful being who has the power to do and create anything would give a rat's arse about a backwater little ****hole planet like this. Nevermind being concerned with what I am doing in my day-to-day life.

In the begining religion was created as an explaination for the unknown. Through time it has been perverted by man into a means of control over the masses.

Long live the Flying Spaghetti Monster!
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What's wrong with pro-life movements?
wow, I havent been here in months and months and months, and my old thread is still here

My problem with pro - life movements. One is the hypocrisy and double think of many of them. They seem to have a concern that begins with conception and ends with birth. sllow me to offer up an example. They fight for babies who are not yet born but do nothing or very little to help babies already on earth. IN fact some of them disagree with things like condoms which can help slow the spread of venereal diseases such as aids which can infect babies in the womb and in fact people like born in africa who have no access to aids drugs such as AZD and who die before their fifth birthday. Some -pro - life' they are! Pro - life my eyeball.

another thing is that it leaves out the woman out of the picture. She has no choice in the matter. shouldnt she have a choice as to whether to go through a pregnancy or not? to give birth or not? The prolifers are so concerned with life so they say, what about her life? as a woman myself I would not want some shmoo telling me that I must reproduce. what if I don't want to at a certain time or ever?

people forcing their beliefs on me. Live and let live, I think. If they don't want abortions, don't have them. But let ME live how I wish.

The 'motherhood is a punishment' concept. Many 'prolifers say 'well she made her choice when she decided to fool around' I ask why are they equating motherhood with punishment?

I could go on forever with this. But these are just some things I see wrong with pro choice movements.
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Old 01-10-2009, 07:21 PM   #34 (permalink)
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wow, I havent been here in months and months and months, and my old thread is still here

My problem with pro - life movements. One is the hypocrisy and double think of many of them. They seem to have a concern that begins with conception and ends with birth. sllow me to offer up an example. They fight for babies who are not yet born but do nothing or very little to help babies already on earth.
I definitely see where you're coming from here. The more extreme of them seem to be rather obsessed and only focus on that. But I don't think that makes it wrong.

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IN fact some of them disagree with things like condoms which can help slow the spread of venereal diseases such as aids which can infect babies in the womb and in fact people like born in africa who have no access to aids drugs such as AZD and who die before their fifth birthday. Some -pro - life' they are! Pro - life my eyeball.
True... Although there are more effective ways to control STDs. (eg abstinence) Problem is, realistically, there are a lot of people that would't like doing that, so no condoms would be a not-so-great-idea from that perspective. So I more or less agree.


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another thing is that it leaves out the woman out of the picture. She has no choice in the matter. shouldnt she have a choice as to whether to go through a pregnancy or not? to give birth or not?
I don't think anyone should have a choice as to whether or not they can kill someone. This applies to men too.


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The prolifers are so concerned with life so they say, what about her life? as a woman myself I would not want some shmoo telling me that I must reproduce. what if I don't want to at a certain time or ever?
At least she would have a life




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people forcing their beliefs on me. Live and let live, I think. If they don't want abortions, don't have them. But let ME live how I wish.
They're just trying to make themselves heard (mostly).

Live how you wish? at what cost?

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The 'motherhood is a punishment' concept. Many 'prolifers say 'well she made her choice when she decided to fool around' I ask why are they equating motherhood with punishment? .
It's not so much a punishment so much as an inconvenient consequence. If you don't want babies, don't make them. Of course, not all unplanned pregnancies are like that (eg rape), but still...

That's my opinion anyway.
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There's more proof of aliens and UFO's than there is of a god but when someone beleives in aliens their called crazy and when they believe in god its faith. all religion has ever done is cause war and fighting. if there really was a god why would he want people to kill for him
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There's more proof of aliens and UFO's than there is of a god but when someone beleives in aliens their called crazy and when they believe in god its faith. all religion has ever done is cause war and fighting. if there really was a god why would he want people to kill for him
Shhhhhh....

You're bringing logic into the discussion. There is no room for logic where faith is concerned.
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Shhhhhh....

You're bringing logic into the discussion. There is no room for logic where faith is concerned.
What a farce. All religion has done is cause wars and fighting? You do realize that a large part of charity programs, or help foundations, whatever you want to call them, are operated and run by people with religious affiliations? Wars are started by fanatics or people using religion as a front to push other agendas. Not by every day religious people just trying to follow their mission as given to them by their God. You'll often find that most religious literature promotes peaceful living.
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yet so many wars are started over religion...hmmmmmmm
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yet so many wars are started over religion...hmmmmmmm
All I was saying was that arguing that all religion has offered to the world is war and violence is being rather short sighted. But I have a feeling you didn't even bother to read my post, or you'd have picked up on that.

At any rate, war and violence is a short coming of humans and how they act, not religious teachings.
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il agree with that but then if their was no religion than there would be no need to fight
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