AtLossForWords

You guys saw my trade proposals earlier of:

To Vancouver
Dan Hamhuis
Scott Hartnell

To Nashville
Sami Salo
Cory Schnieder
2nd round pick

or

To Vancouver
Anton Volchenkov
Dean McCammond

To Ottawa
Brendan Morrison
Cory Schnieder
2nd/3rd/4th round pick

(Ottawa trade revamped)

I think Salo needs to go. He's the Peter Forsberg of the blueline, and I criticize Forsberg, so it's only just I criticize Salo as well. He hurts his team more than he helps it, with all of his missed time.

Luongo? Wasn't this the guy who was winning games for us who was supposed to be our MVP? Now maybe someone will believe me that Markus Naslund is this teams, leader, steady hand, MVP, and offense.

Markus Naslund has been SENSATIONAL! I haven't been so much impressed with his play since '02-'04. He's all over the ice, he's scoring, and he's even playing defense with some grit. Markus Naslund is this team's MVP.


Back to Luongo, he's tired. His skill is tops in the league, but he can't play the amount of games he did with Florida and perform just as well. The Western Conference, specifically the Vancouver Canucks have a very tough travel schedule. I would like to see Sabourin play alittle more. He wasn't a disaster in Edmonton and I believe fifteen to twenty games will do both him and Luongo good. Sabourin and Luongo playing at 95% to 100% of their abilities is better than Luongo playing at 88% of his ability and Sabourin warming the bench.

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datsun260z

Yes, he's been just good.

Tell me one game this year he single handedly stole. That's what excellent players (goalies in this case) do.

I don't agree, the Canucks started this season off by playing most games in the opposition end of the ice. What did Luongo do there? There are games where the Canucks get the first 10 shots or so and he doesn't see one. Then somehow the team ends up down by one on the oppositions first attempts.

He needs to be bigger in his role. That's what I am saying, don't get your back up because I make mere mention that I think he's been "just" good. This guy should be out playing Theadore plain and simple. Tomorrow he needs to out play Turco. Will he get there, I think so. I definately think we've only seen the start of what Luongo can bring. Can't wait to see him by seasons end, it's going to be the stuff that legends are made of I am sure. However, if your happy that he's 8th place rank today then I am wrong, and he's been fantastic.

However, for now, I say he's been just good.

RB

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If common sense is so common, how come so few of us have it?

datsun260z

ALFW, do you really think the preds would make a trade now? Especially with us? However I like it.

The Ottawa proposal I really like. It works for both teams, especially the Canucks. Which is always a good thing.

As for your point of view on Naslund. I have to agree with you.As the days go by, and with a steady - contributing center - Naslund will continue to lead this squad. I like how he's even taken to getting physical if necessary. It's a good sign and does tons for team moral when not only the grinders are getting dirty but the boss is too.

I also appreciate your thoughts on placing him with the twins again. However, I gotta say I do agree with Coach V here more. The twins and Pyatt are gold. They will get pucks in the net very soon. You can't stop them for long. It's smart to get Naslund going with someone else. It's what they're trying to avoid in having a one line team. I like what I see for potential, seems the goal is to have all four lines scoring. Coach V must have learned something along the way from the Buffalo mandate. Furthermore, with the line juggling that's taken place, it wont be long before all forwards will be comfortable playing with one another, which is a valuable characteristic of any team.

RB

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If common sense is so common, how come so few of us have it?

sentinel20

I know what you are saying, but it is not about the amount of shots, it is the quality of them and lets be honest, he has made some tough saves. Ones that Auld or Cloutier would have missed.

sentinel20

I know what you are saying, but it is not about the amount of shots, it is the quality of them and lets be honest, he has made some tough saves. Ones that Auld or Cloutier would have missed.

sentinel20

I know what you are saying, but it is not about the amount of shots, it is the quality of them and lets be honest, he has made some tough saves. Ones that Auld or Cloutier would have missed.

sentinel20

I know what you are saying, but it is not about the amount of shots it is the quality of them, and lets be honest he has made some tough saves, ones that Auld or "Red Light" Cloutier would have missed

AtLossForWords

I think the Preadators want to win. They need to move Hartnell because they can't sign him, and Hamhuis hasn't been contributing as much offensively this season, because the Preadators want him to play a much more responsible and defensive style with other guys in the lineup like Zidlicky and Timonen. Hamhuis isn't the biggest offensive contributer, but he can be.

Sami Salo would be a great addition to that team. He's a two way defender with a rocket shot. Don't you think Trotz would love to have Zidlicky, Timonen, and Salo running different powerplay units?

The Preads also need a young goaltending prospect. Their backup is Chris Mason, and he isn't on the rise in the organization. Cory Schnieder would be good for the wave of youth they have coming through. The health of Vokoun is something they may have to worry about more and more as time goes on.

Well Mr. Badcock, the Canucks have been a one line hockey team for quite awhile. Before the Sedin Line, it was the Big Line. I can appreciate Vigneault moving towards a solid four line team, but it isn't going to happen this year, and even in the future, it's always going to be a work in progress. Look at Buffalo, they had a four line team last season, then they lost Grier and DuMont, but they still have the centers to make all four of their lines dangerous. When Briere, Drury, Roy, and Connolly are on your roster, of course all four of your lines are dangerous, and it's great to have guys like Afinogenov, Hecht, Kotalik, Vanek, and others to support them on the wings.

If the Canucks want to be a four line hockey team, they need the players to be so. Compare Briere, Drury, Roy, and Connolly to Sedin, Morrison, Kesler, and Choinard. Who's the four line hockey team?

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bert2nazzy

TRADE SALO?

Geez guys, RELAX! It's 15 games into the season, and already everyone wants to start trading, and re-assembling the team...Salo is the last guy we need to trade right now, what happens after we trade him, freaking Kevin Bieksa becomes our no. 2 d-man? Salo is so very underrated its not even funny. The guy is a stud defensively, and that booming shot from the point is also really useful. To add to that, he can contribute offensively. Please Dave Nonis, don't freaking trade Salo, and if he had half a brain, he wouldn't...

As for Lungo, listen up Bad-**** :haha: , my memory aint so good but I know Luongo has won us games we shouldn't have right when the season began, but with the games we've lost (dont count yesterday's) we never really deserved to win, and Luongo kept us in the game, and gave us a chanse to win it....

As for Naslund, what can I say, he's my hero, I would never get mad at Nazzy, even if he slept with my girl-friend....

TimmyTabasco

Alright, its blatantly obvious the Canucks need some help

-top 6 winger who can score. Not a winger that perhaps will score, but a bonafide guy that you know will score

-depth defenseman. Sorry guys, but I'm not sold on Bieksa. He's alright as depth, but shouldn't be anywhere near the top two pairings.

-backup goalie. Its obvious Vino doesnt have much faith in Sabourin. Luongo needs rest. and its starting to show. There must be better options.

If you fix these problems, things will improve for the better. If you dont, the team will be average at best

Here are some solutions

-Cooke has to go. This guy has played his way off the team. No, not just this season..last season he didnt perform. Injury prone, and overrated pest

-Salo. I really like Salo..he's a fine defensman. BUT, again..lets be honest..no beating around the bush..will he resign here, and can the Canucks afford him? If the answer is No, then move him for a quality defenseman in return

-Morrison. He may come around, but then again..he hasn't played solid hockey since the last playoffs..which seems like an eternity. I really like the guy, but if Nonis can do a deal..that improves the team..do it

-Bulis/Chouinard/Scraps. Chouinard is winning faceoffs, but he's pricey. I would have prefered someone with more speed..But, it appears the Canucks are stuck with him

Bulis has shown flashes of top 6 ability..but has also shown flashes of Bob Gainey's scowl. So, what to do? I dont think you can move him..considering he was signed as a UFA

Anyway, thats enough for now

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