subby13

I kind of figured that, but we're only talking about a few exhibition games. I'm not saying that performance in these games shouldn't be taken into account, but the coaching staff has a lot more information to go on than just that. They can and should be taking other factors in to account. Now if Kronwall has been terrible, that would be another story, but from what I've heard that isn't the case.

I don't like the idea of moving Kubina simply because I strongly doubt that we'd find a fair return for him. IMO, you don't give away an asset for far less than it's worth just to free up a roster spot. I'm of the opinion that no player should be "untouchable" if the right offer comes along, but I don't think the right offer for Kubina is out there. Besides, he brings far more to the table than Gill.

If Stralman makes it, I wouldn't be opposed to moving White.

Now that I like! Trade Gill and put one of Stralman, Woz, or Harrison in the #7 spot and it would be perfect.

leafsplayoffs

Kronwall is not even on the radar to make this team. The defensive depth chart looks something like this:

Kaberle
McCabe
Kubina
Colaiacovo
Gill
White
Wozniewski
Stralman
Kronwall

The Leafs staff prefer Wozniewski to Kronwall, even though more fans prefer Kronwall, the Leafs brass do not. People in Sweden who have seen Kronwall and Stralman play all say Kronwall is the lesser player of the two at this point too. The only way Kronwall makes the team in any capacity is if Carlo's injured knee does not allow him to start the season (unlikely since Maurice seems very confident he will) and they have him as the #7 while Carlo is out so Stralman can play full time elsewhere. Even then it would be only temporary and he wouldnt play, and like I said it seems unlikely Carlo wont be ready to start the season.

subby13

Do people in Sweden watch the Marlies?

I bolded the other bit about Stralman playing full time elsewhere because I think that's an important point to consider. As I mentioned earlier, Stralman is at a point where he'd still benefit from getting North American pro experience. Playing big minutes in the AHL would likely be better for him than being the #7 guy with the big club, IMO. Kronwall and Woz, however, are beyond the point where they can hope to improve themselves much in the AHL.

I don't necessarily disagree with your depth chart, but as I said earlier, I'd be in favour of moving someone... subtract one name from the list (for arguments sake, lets say Gill), and send Stralman to the AHL so that he can have the opportunity to play significant minutes, and suddenly Kronwall is not only on the radar, but he's in our 7.

TylerDCA

Only problem is that I would believe the depth chart looks a little more like:

Kaberle
McCabe
Kubina
Colaiacovo
Gill
White
Wozniewski
Stralman
Harrison
Kronwall

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It wouldn't bother me as much if Kronwall lost a job to Harrison. He too is getting to a point where we use him or lose him, and he too has little left to gain from the AHL. If Maurice and Co feel that he's a better option than Kronwall, I'd have no problem with that.

At the end of last season Greg Gilbert commented that Harrison was the most NHL ready d-man the Marlies had, so he's not exactly coming out of left field.

hockeyboy14

Actually in my opinion Gill is our best penalty killer, especially 5on3.

Blake-Sundin-Antropov
Tucker-Wellwood-Poni
Steen-Stajan-Gamache
Devereaux-Pohl-Kilger
Battaglia

odds are it will be Gamache or Sami in the press box instead of battaglia. If Welly is still injured, Pohl plays 2nd line ( Pohl has been great)

Kubina-Kaberle
McCabe-Carlo
White-Gill
Kronwall

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hockeyboy14

The Toronto Maple Leafs trimmed down their roster Monday, cutting goaltender Scott Clemmensen, forwards Jiri Tlusty, Simon Gamache, Tony Salmelainen, Jeremy Williams and Ben Ondrus and defenceman Jay Harrison.

Clemmensen, Gamache, Harrison, Ondrus, Salmelainen and Williams must clear waivers.

Clemmensen played six games for the New Jersey Devils last season, registering a 1-1-2 record and a 3.15 goals against average. He also played one game and had a shutout for the American Hockey League's Lowell Devils.

He has played in 25 career NHL games, all with New Jersey, registering a 7-6-4 record with a 2.82 goals against average.

Clemmensen has also competed in 146 career AHL games with Albany and Lowell, earning a record of 36-81-21, a .903 save percentage, a 2.89 goals against average and four shutouts.





Gamache, 26, from Thetford Mines, Que., led the Swiss Elite League with 66 points (20-46) in 44 games with Bern. He tied for the league lead with 16 playoff points (7-9). must clear waivers before reporting to the Marlies.

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TylerDCA

Do the Leafs have any young talent who may make an impact?

I mean what the crap. Sens are stocked but will try Foligno. Montreal has two goalies playing better than Raycroft and To$kala and they are keeping Price.

Nuts to this crap.

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I'm a little confused... one of the articles I read referred to these as being "the Leafs final cuts". But they can't possibly intend to keep Kronwall, Woz, Stralman, AND Belak.

Wonder if anyone will bite at Gamache, Sameleinin, or Harrison. I figure the others are probably pretty safe.

Interesting sidenote: looking over today's waiver moves, I noticed 2 former Leafs also on waivers on their way to the AHL, Pilar (Chicago) and Bell (Phoenix).