Lappi's Musings: Cptr 3; If You Don't Have Anything to Say..
This musing is for the beloved Leafarazzi.
I hate them. I can't stand them. Damian Cox, Al Strachan, Steve Simmons this means you yall.
Sometimes they post things of intelligence, but for the most part when talking about the leafs (or hockey in general) it's like what on earth are yall talking about, because you are making no sense.
How many times do rumours (such as Roberts will not re-sign with the Leafs if Quinn stays) come up, to stir up complete and utter chaos amongst the masses only to have it stamped down (and stamped down hard) a few days later? How many times do the Leafarazzi stir the pot and the riffs in the dressing room, only to report it and go "See! I told you!"
Mommy always told me: ifyou don't have anything to say, don't say anything.
They also never tell the whole story (becuase they don't bother to do research or anything). Every year during trade deadline we hear "Leafs going after player...Leafs flub on getting player".
none of the details come out.
Like one Mr. Rob Blake. How many people think that Quinn just flubbed up on that one? (hands up please).
he didn't. Blake vetoed on the last minute and said he wanted to go to Colorado instead. (something about a contract), which is why he decided to go for Berg instead.
Everyone was going to kill MLSE the summer of the big UFA sale because we let walk away Guerin, Holik, Kapseritus, Amonte et.al go.
I will state for the record that:
Guerin did not want to play in Canada (and the papers even STATED that, and then went well the Leafs screwed up). No mention until Guerin stated that the Leafs DID make a substanial offer, but Dallas made the same offer too, and he wanted to play in the states.
Holik was offered TONS of money (9.mill) and nyr: upped it by 5 thou and he went to newyork. Holik stated (months later) hat the Leafs did that, and he wanted to stay in the NY area. Kasperitus didn't eeven KNOW the Leafs bid on him.
Amonte was the only flub....but Watters said BOTH sides kept waffling on numbers that made fiscal sense.
What have those players done in the regular season (and for Amonte/Guerin the only ones to make the playoffs in the two years since, what have THEY'VE done?)
any hockey analysist you listen to would tell you that signing Wesley and de Vries would have been over paying them for their talents. and what did De vries do for nyr: for that matter what did he do for ott: ? What did Bondra do?
Everyone is pissing vinger because we didn't get Hill....well Hill was demanding a new contract over 3 years if he moved to EITHER New Jersey or Toronto.
Yet, where is this mentioned in the papers? NO where. It's just negative press.
So again: if you all can't tell the truth....don't say anything. same goes if you don't have anything to say. (period)
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I like Cox. Him and Bob McCowan are great on the fan590. Just because they live in Toronto, doesn't mean they have to kiss the Leafs ass like everyboby else in the city. It's quite refreshing actually. Neither thinks the Leafs had a chance to win the Cup this year, and tell me what the Leafs have done to prove them wrong. They still lack speed, finish, and a solid defense. Oh and yeah, what is it now, 38 and counting.
Everybodies entitled to their own opinion Lap, if you don't like it don't read it.
I like Cox. Him and Bob McCowan are great on the fan590. Just because they live in Toronto, doesn't mean they have to kiss the Leafs ass like everyboby else in the city. It's quite refreshing actually. Neither thinks the Leafs had a chance to win the Cup this year, and tell me what the Leafs have done to prove them wrong. They still lack speed, finish, and a solid defense. Oh and yeah, what is it now, 38 and counting.
Everybodies entitled to their own opinion Lap, if you don't like it don't read it.
Nothing wrong with having an opinion or being critical. However Lap is right, a lot of the time, especially in the case of Comb over Strachan there is little to no truth to it. If the press would tell it like it is with truth then most people wouldn't have a problem.
look. I don't mean that Cox, and McCowan and all of those guys have to kiss Leaf arse. but to go so left wing and bitch about everything gets a little tiring too.
Considering that 29 other teams get at least SOME support from their local newspapers, it would be nice to see that from at least One of the Four newspapers that this city has.
and btw, i never said lol they need to supoort the Leafs more (if at all). I'm saying they need to either post the truth, or go "this is what we know SO FAR".
way too many times they print things as if it's gospel truth, only for it to be a gospel lie, or not even a lie but an unsubstaiated rumour.
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Originally Posted by lapniappe
Everyone is pissing vinger because we didn't get Hill....well Hill was demanding a new contract over 3 years if he moved to EITHER New Jersey or Toronto.
Actually, Hill wanted a 2 year contract deal which didn't go down. Not 3.
And, yes. If I were Fergie JR., I would have done the deal. They needed to win the Cup and they needed to win it badly. He would have been a big boost to this line-up .I don't think he could have done worse than Aki Berg or Calle Johansson.
Anyway, it's quite obvious (to few) that the defence stunk bad, and a Sean Hill could have maybe helped them to last them... another round?
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Originally Posted by Leafs_fa_life
Just because they live in Toronto, doesn't mean they have to kiss the Leafs ass like everyboby else in the city. It's quite refreshing actually. Neither thinks the Leafs had a chance to win the Cup this year, and tell me what the Leafs have done to prove them wrong. They still lack speed, finish, and a solid defense. Oh and yeah, what is it now, 38 and counting.
Quite true. I don't see how anybody believed they could have won the Cup this past year. But alas, most Leaf fans probably did.
That is what's called, and unbiassed opinion. They knew that the Toronto Maple Leafs weren't going to win the Cup, so they didn't fabricate and make up garbage to make it seem as if "Leetch is The Missing Piece", to fool fans into thinking this is the year again. Obviously, there's more to pieces to be fitted into the puzzle, and I'm glad that they admitted it.
I don't know how many times that they've been giving opinions without the Blue and White fog covering their eyes, but if it's the case that they do it on a very consistent basis, I may just read a few more of their articles.
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Hill did want a 3 year contract...well thats what TSN reported.
But lets face it, if those guys didnt go the opposite way of the rest of Toronto thinking about the leafs...they wouldnt have much to talk about or much for radio call in people to argue with.
They might make up crap all the time, but atleast its something then nothing.
I like Cox. Him and Bob McCowan are great on the fan590.
perhaps, if lappy listened to Cox on the radio (590) once in a while, she'd find him to be quite intelligent and sensible, at least, for a sports reporter.
I don't always agree with Mr. Cox but he seems to be very thoughtful and intelligent on the radio. I'm glad that Toronto has some objective and critical writers. It sure beats listening to the (biased and arse-kissing) Leaf fans.
As someone who lived in Ontario in the late 70's and 80's, I can tell that the media then were all apologists fro the hockey establishment. They were loathe to criticize the Ballard reign of error , and they turned a blind eye to the transgressions of Alan Eagleson. I guess out a fear of loosing access to players and their press passes. When the press accts as cheer leaders for a team it does a diservice to the fans.
That said, lazy journalism, not checking facts, making up rumours to fill column inches, carrying personal vendettas are also not excusable. I have observed much of this type of behaviour in the Vancouver marketplace as well.
I like Cox. Him and Bob McCowan are great on the fan590.
perhaps, if lappy listened to Cox on the radio (590) once in a while, she'd find him to be quite intelligent and sensible, at least, for a sports reporter.
I don't always agree with Mr. Cox but he seems to be very thoughtful and intelligent on the radio. I'm glad that Toronto has some objective and critical writers. It sure beats listening to the (biased and arse-kissing) Leaf fans.
Strachan, on the other hand... ugh
lappy CAN'T as she doesn't live in Toronto so she doesn't have clear reception of the fan after 10:00 am.
and again you people are missing the point
no where did i say I want Cox et.al to kiss the leafs bum all the time. I have NO problem with the fact that these guys are overly criticall (it goes with the overly critical fans)
what i am saying is all these guys do is piss and vingear the leafs, and 2/3's what they say isn't even the WHOLE story. they don't tell the reason WHY the leafs didn't get said player, or sign this player.
all they report is "Leafs didn't do this and they don't care again"
BLA it's so easy for you to go "I'd sign Hill"
Chances are Fergie would have signed him; he wantedto get him. But where exactly is this Fergie's fault. Hill was asked to revoke his clause SO MANY TIMES throughout the season. if a 3 year deal is what this guy wanted, then all he had to do was say, i'll revoke it if it means the team i trade for gives me a 3 year deal
this is not something you do at 9:00 in the morning of trade deadline day. especially that next season you have no idea what the financial ramifications will be (and you have Nolan, Sundin, Leetch, Mogliny (maybe), and a few others under contract, and that right there is about 12-15 million right there).
You all are saying if Hill was there instead of Johannson we would have been in the Finals. You all are going if we had Bondra that would have been the offense needed to win the cup. You would have been miserable no matter Who Ferguson acuqired.
Look at the evidence you guys. the only guy the Leafs COULD have gotten and made a SERIOUS impact on their team is Rob Blake. And he was so egar to play for Toronto (so he said) he decided at the last minute to stay in an american team, and then when he was up for free agency he decided along with Sakic and Roy to resign a triple contract with the team.
Berg, Francis and JOhanson may not have paid off for the Leafs, but neither has Guerin, Holik, Kasperitius and Amonte either
Neither has de Vries and Bondra for that matter.
oh.
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That said, lazy journalism, not checking facts, making up rumours to fill column inches, carrying personal vendettas are also not excusable. I have observed much of this type of behaviour in the Vancouver marketplace as well.
Good Example of this would be Steve Simmons and his B.S. about Foote wanting to sign with the Leafs this year. The Roberts story which was in the same article aswell, the following day another Sun reporter spoke to Roberts agent who denied that whole thing.
If I were simmons my face would be red with embarressment. Simmons hasn't even mentioned anything on either subject after his errors were pointed out.
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