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Old 03-02-2004, 12:31 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm a little worried about our guys in net, Tellqvist is small.. Centomo has been anything but promising and who the heck is Ford?
Some scouts consider Ford to be our best goalie prospect.
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Old 03-02-2004, 12:46 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm a little worried about our guys in net, Tellqvist is small.. Centomo has been anything but promising and who the heck is Ford
Who cares how big he is. Hasek is only 5-11 and like him or not(and I don't) he was a great goalie.
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Old 03-02-2004, 08:28 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I'm a little worried about our guys in net, Tellqvist is small.. Centomo has been anything but promising and who the heck is Ford
Who cares how big he is. Hasek is only 5-11 and like him or not(and I don't) he was a great goalie.
well look at Luongo, he's 6'3" 207lbs and covers a good amount of the net. Not too mention his big ass pads, which helps even more. Anyone remember the size of Potvin when he was playing for the Leafs? He was a smaller guy back then with relatively small pads compared to today, so he had a lot more holes but still managed to do some great things for the team. Look at him now, he looks a lot bigger. Now whether he beefed up or it's the size of his larger pads and equipment you'll have to ask The Cat.

So size does help in a way, but it all comes down to agility and timing.
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I agree that Toronto shouldn't give up all their youth, a few younger rosters players wouldn't be so bad if they were after a top d-man or two.

Kaberle, Berg, a few picks here and there. You know.
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Old 03-02-2004, 11:52 AM   #15 (permalink)
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well look at Luongo, he's 6'3" 207lbs and covers a good amount of the net.
Luongo is a great goalie and so was Hasek. That just goes to show size doesn't matter much for goaltenders, like you said it all comes down to agility and timing.
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I'm a little worried about our guys in net, Tellqvist is small.. Centomo has been anything but promising and who the heck is Ford
Who cares how big he is. Hasek is only 5-11 and like him or not(and I don't) he was a great goalie.
well look at Luongo, he's 6'3" 207lbs and covers a good amount of the net. Not too mention his big ass pads, which helps even more. Anyone remember the size of Potvin when he was playing for the Leafs? He was a smaller guy back then with relatively small pads compared to today, so he had a lot more holes but still managed to do some great things for the team. Look at him now, he looks a lot bigger. Now whether he beefed up or it's the size of his larger pads and equipment you'll have to ask The Cat.
Don't forget though, mikey, that goaltenders in the early 90's would usually allow 4 goals a game, in fact a 4.00 GAA was quite good. Goal scoring is way down but Potvin's goals against isn't.
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Old 03-02-2004, 01:42 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Let's say Toronto trades Colaiocovo and a 20th+ overall pick for Gonchar.
Let's also say Gonchar has five good years for Toronto.

Now, after these five years, and assuming the price hadn't changed, could Toronto trade more future assets (which have had five years to replenish) for another top d-man?

And if they kept drafting well, could they not keep doing this indefinitely?
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Old 03-02-2004, 01:53 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Now there is a risky plan.. I just think that if we build from within, we'll have more success... I wasn't living in 1967, but I do know that ever since then we have been trying to make trades, get free agents, comprimise the future.. well, we haven't won the cup that way.. so whats so crazy about building from within? Like I said, if we did win the cup this season, that would probably be it for a while(assuming we trade our future away) but, if we keep the future, we could very well have a dynasty like the New Jersey Devils or the Detroit Red Wings have going now....

About the Nolan trade, I have no doubt that Mccauley is better than Nolan.. but Brad Boyes will be somthing in this league.. if his performance at the world juniors or AHL isn't an indicator, what is.. there is a very good chance this guy will become somthing... then, we gave up a number one pick, which we could of used.

If we are going to make a trade, dont go for Gonchar.. the price is way too high.. Leetch, well.. i think that we could give up maybe Hedin and say a 4th-6th rounder for Leetch.. if that. Lindros wouldn't be too bad in a leaf jersey. Before you kill me on saying that, I used to think like you.. but i thought about it today and I thought.. the leafs have barrels of money, we can afford Lindros... Lindros' salary is all pretty much paid right now. Brian Leetch would be a better buy for the leafs then Sergei Gonchar.. but thats just what i think.
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Leetch is another guy who doesn't know how to play defence, and Lindros is another concussion waiting to happen.

I would be pissed if we actually tried to get any of those guys off the Rangers, with exception of DeVries or Lundmark (who they probably won't trade)
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