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Olympic Hockey Olympic Hockey Forum. Discuss the sport of Ice Hockey from the Olympic Games. Cheer for your country, and analyze the international style of play.
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01-03-2010, 11:45 AM
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#21 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by buick1957
are you feeling okay!Teows,Bergeon,Morrow are all wasted picks and there is lots of players they could have picked instead including Savard didn,t even get a tryout especially Bergeon what good is he going to do! and yes Green top defencemen in the league should have been picked!
watch Don Cherry to night!
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Toews and Morrow are wasted picks??? Are you serious?
Morrow brings some much needed grit, and if we get into a shootout for a medal Toews may be the best we have. HE has already shown he can handle the pressure of having the entire teams success rest on his stick, while playing on the big stage.
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01-03-2010, 12:17 PM
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#22 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by charlio lemieux
Toews and Morrow are wasted picks??? Are you serious?
Morrow brings some much needed grit, and if we get into a shootout for a medal Toews may be the best we have. HE has already shown he can handle the pressure of having the entire teams success rest on his stick, while playing on the big stage.
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not really wasted picked but we could have picked better yes I know Toews rocked in the shoot out for Canada in the World Juniors couple years ago you guys are the only people I know that likes these picks!
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01-03-2010, 12:58 PM
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#23 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by buick1957
okay then just tell the players to be deicated and play defense and don,t worry about scoring goals! because there is 2 players that won,t believe me! my opinion the picks could have been a lot better and the opinion of the hockey world including don cherry!
I will say Team Canada has better picks than USA team! American teams should be thanking are Hockey nation Canada for the Stanley Cup every year haha!
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Are you sure the players won't believe you? Or are you thinking they won't understand what you're saying?
I asked for some players that would be better selections than Toews, Bergeron and Morrow for the roles they have on the team. Meaning checking line guys who can score. Kris Draper was on the 2006 team, so they're instantly an upgrade.
Don Cherry spouted off a bunch of scorers and people who only have half a good season to their name, and even then, they've cooled off significantly after a hot start. Yes, let's bring them over players who are consistent. If your whole argument is "watch Don Cherry" then the discussion will end up being awfully short, since he hasn't been a good analyst for hockey since prior 2004. All he's good for now is rambling on a little bit, talking about soldiers and calling players attractive men.
Your argument for Mike Green sounds a lot like peoples arguments for Bryan McCabe in 2006. That sure worked out well.
Also, Stanley Cup? What does that matter in this discussion?
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Originally Posted by buick1957
not really wasted picked but we could have picked better yes I know Toews rocked in the shoot out for Canada in the World Juniors couple years ago you guys are the only people I know that likes these picks!
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Your hero, Don Cherry, likes Toews. In fact, if you cared to have listened to him instead of project your opinions onto him, he named Toews to his team. Which left of Keith, which is probably one of the biggest glaring omissions anyone could ever make.
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01-03-2010, 06:16 PM
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#24 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by buick1957
okay then just tell the players to be deicated and play defense and don,t worry about scoring goals! because there is 2 players that won,t believe me! my opinion the picks could have been a lot better and the opinion of the hockey world including don cherry!
I will say Team Canada has better picks than USA team! American teams should be thanking are Hockey nation Canada for the Stanley Cup every year haha!
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The problem with having a guy like Green on the ice is that the opposing team is going to have a hell of a lot more scoring chances because he gets caught up ice so much and is not all that good in his own end even if he made it back in time. Why have a guy like that when you can have a Dan Boyle, who is nearly as good offensively, but much better defensively? Boyle, paired with a good defensive guy like Doughty, will be far more effective than Green would have been. Boyle is much better at working in team defense situations.
A guy like Green causes more goals against than he helps score against the cream of the crop players. Sure, Green looks great in the regular season popping up his totals against the crap teams who cannot retaliate like an all star squad can. But he gets exposed by real talent.
Pronger/Niedermayer is a proven, excellent pairing, as is Keith/Seabrook. They have chemistry and knowledge of each other's play, which will circumvent the need for them to adapt to a soft rover like Green.
Weber is a good two way guy, tough, and I would take him over Green as well.
Seabrook is the weakest of the lot and the only one I would take Green over, but Seabrook's chemistry with Keith is proven and very effective.
Again, Green would cause more goals against than he would help score. Thus. No, leave him off team Canada
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01-05-2010, 06:18 PM
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Okay, so Bergeron has a broken thumb, and while it's speculated he'll only miss two weeks, who do you take to replace him?
Assuming they wanted a right handed center who could do well in faceoff situations, play well defensively, and contribute some offense, then Mike Fisher, Travis Zajac, and Rich Peverley are all solid picks.
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02-10-2010, 05:42 PM
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Well the Olympics are just a few days away now Canada has some tough talent to go up against. Russians have all the talent in the world but can they play as a team? Canada has the talent to match with alot more size Crosby is the only guy under 6 foot on the team. The States are young and have alot of speed and can be very dangerous on powerplays. The Swedes are defending champs, very solid lineup can play with anyone. This is going to be amazing to watch all that talent on the ice at once!
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02-10-2010, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Nash61
Well the Olympics are just a few days away now Canada has some tough talent to go up against. Russians have all the talent in the world but can they play as a team? Canada has the talent to match with alot more size Crosby is the only guy under 6 foot on the team. The States are young and have alot of speed and can be very dangerous on powerplays. The Swedes are defending champs, very solid lineup can play with anyone. This is going to be amazing to watch all that talent on the ice at once!
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Dan Boyle.
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02-10-2010, 05:52 PM
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#28 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by VICE™
Dan Boyle.
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touche, Canada is huge period average height is about 6'3''
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02-10-2010, 08:35 PM
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#29 (permalink)
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They(Steve) has called Jeff Carter to attend the Olympics just in case Ryan Getzlaf cannot attend.
Do you agree that Carter should replace Getzlaf or someone else should? If he is out for the Olympics that is..
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02-10-2010, 08:38 PM
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Rather see Stamkos then Carter just for powerplay reasons.
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