paolosmythe

i am not sure if you are exaggerating the incident out of contempt for any PIT player who might try to prevent DET from winning, or whether you perceive the DET players to be so fragile, that such a 'shot to the head' might have caused harm.

note: the 'delicate player' in question never actually had a concussion but 'concussion like symptoms' AND he gained clearance to play from medical experts on the matter.

so all things considered, you are sounding silly. funny tho.

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Garb

You are aware if you have a concussion you are more likely to have one in the future right?

And concussion like symptoms are normally caused by a concussion right? So because he was never said to have had a concussion means he never got one? Makes sense...

He was also sent to medical professionals well after his symptoms began.

Take a look, he got him pretty hard on the shot.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tAUEbtRgi_U

Silly? I think not.

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paolosmythe

ah poor number 88....

if he had such, i think it most likely that they'd have named it as such. in any event, all he definitively had was a head ache and then a clean bill of health.

which underscores how NOT serious it all was.

granted for kindergarten kiddies that is a solid slap to the chops. for nhl players in the cup finals...meh.

well if not silly, then certainly disproportionate. he fell and grasped his face like a brazilian footballer.

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careyprice31

Yo, I have to agree with you on this one. He meant to do it. He reached for Franzen's head knowing why he had been away from the game. I saw the game I saw when that happened. It was obvious.

hooon

just a 2 minute penalty would have been fine.... coach babcock said it best when he was asked about the hit. he said something like

"was it a high hit? i dont know, does roberts have shoulder pads on his hands?"

Not to mention this is only ONE of the incidents in that game of cheap shots being taken against the wings. You will NEVER i repeat NEVER see the red wings stoop to that level of play, they are smarter and all around better than that.

Game three was toned down in this regard, there was a lot more hits on both sides, but they were all clean for the most part... sure holmer might have been a little hurt and it should have been called, but that wasnt an intent to injur, nor was the stick to lidstroms face.

The draper hit on crosby was priceless, i had no idea sid was so acrobatic. And who knew datsyuk could lay out someone twice his size? And I give credit to the pens for a monster hit on lilja.

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Garb

If it was just a headache he would have kept playing. They were symptoms that progressed and didn't get much better. He had this "headache" since round 2 against Colorado.



No, which means the trainers weren't able to diagnose it because it wasn't an incredibly serious concussion, but a concussion nonetheless.



Just hitting to the side of the head can do damage.

Todd Bertuzzi can vouch for you.

So can Peter Forsberg. He got hit to the side of the head by oldie Igor Larionov and bled.



Perhaps he embellished a little but it still warranted a penalty. Two minutes for a head check at least.

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ref's suck

Punch any Pitt player in the head and cross check (Hard can opener style) any in front of the crease and its leagle!!!! Good to go. Cuz obviously shots to the head are as good as gold, as Fluery has done it too. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Shows the colors eh? Kinda like Patrick Roy?


Oh ya, and Paolosmythe...your avatar looks like Richard Simmons! lmao

Garb

I had a hard time understanding this post...

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Badat

lol 6'5 NHLers off ice are nothing, I've been in and witnessed fights from guys who are far tougher then most the guys in the NHL. I'd love to See them take that same right from a 6'4 300lbs man.

So every face wash in the NHL now has the intent to poke a guys eye out now does it? Man you should have your eyes examined he game hit a small shoot an Franzen acted like his world was ending, I've seen dozens upon dozens of players take that shot and and some with concussion problems and not drop like the world was over. And he did drop like he was about to die, he looked like he took stick to the head and not a hand in a glove that barley hit him.

Also Roberts is a 42 year old man not some 28 year old in his prime you think he could really hit him so hard that it warranted him to drop like that?

you and me must have a different definition of "Irony" cause "Irony" in my dictionary means "to mean something different then intended" which I didn't.

Garb

Wow, please look at the video again. What the hell were you watching? He didn't give him a face wash. He punched him in the head. If he honestly didn't intend to injure he would have admitted to his hands coming up at his head. He tried to play it off as if his SHOULDER hit Franzen. Btw, guys can get knocked out with shots to the head. Does Steve Moore ring a bell?

42 years old isn't THAT old. My dad is almost 50 and can land a solid punch. What the crap are you talking about?

I'll give you the fact that Franzen sold it. But you know what, people went at his head all game, and it was incredibly irresponsible of the team to do that.

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