hooon

I'm surprised that no one has brought this up yet.... but i feel that there is VERY obvious problem with the officiating in the NHL right now. It is pretty clear that the NHL does not want the Red Wings to win the cup. It is pretty clear (and for obvious reasons) that the NHL would much rather have the Penguins be the new 'face' of hockey.

Obviously with the 'superstar' sidney crosby on the team, the penguins are the best chance for the NHL to gain ratings and approval from the public.

But seriously refs.... if you are going to cheat and attempt to call the game against the wings.... at least choose SOMEWHAT legitamate plays to attempt this highly suspect level of cheating. As if the canceled Holmstrom goal in game 5 of the Dallas series wasn't enough.... the NHL outdoes itself with another incredibly horrible call. Obviously this time it didnt cost a team a win....

Who regulates this? Who refs the refs? The commisioner? For all of those of you who watched the game tonight... and who have been watching the playoffs unfold so far....

Is there anything the penguins CAN'T get away with? Honestly, sidney crosby could skate onto the ice during a shift with a gaggle of newborn puppies, decapitate each one, and then skin them all individually.... and not only would the NHL not penalize him... they would praise him and likely give him his own commercial of the same theme.

I am not a crosby hater... nor a penguin hater. They are a fantastic team with a fantastic leader. I just wish they could win fairly, without the NHL bandwagon pulling every possible string for them.

The canceled goal tonight? Babcock handled that VERY well in the press conference after the game, and he said it all.
It is simply appalling to me at the mis-officiation of the NHL. Clearly they want support, ratings, and fans.... but getting this through clear and apparent rigged cheating is horrendous.

Luckily for the NHL... the wings are so good that they can't even lose, despite the NHL's best efforts.

Garb

Do all Wings fans a favor and delete this thread. One bad call does not justify accusing the refs of a conspiracy against Detroit.

To everyone else: We aren't like this.

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hooon

ONE bad call? Did you even read my post?? You are as pathetic as the refs for even trying to say its 'ONE BAD CALL'... i wont even get into the 3 horribly borderline penalties on the redwings.... or the 4 blown offsides calls... But if you seriously dont even get a LITTLE suspicious... then you obviously arent even watching the game...

oh yeah... and your ONE bad call? in my original post i mentioned BOTH cancelled goals... that is TWO, PLURAL, MORE THAN ONE. The first obviously occuring in the game 5 of the dallas series... where they called holmstrom on 'goaltender interference'... for you non-believing fools out there here is a video of that call... you be the judge... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkJhw0JuOR8

Essentially, the same exact call was made tonight... (obviously the NHL's use of instant replay doesnt apply to 'judgement calls' from the refs).

BTW i can go on and on... give you plenty more SPECIFIC examples of individual calls and penalites if you really want it.... but if you saw the games you know for yourself... or maybe you are just another bandwagon fan in denial of the attrocities taking place.

and please... read my post before you respond with your ignorance....

Amoroq

When you throw out words and phrases like pathetic, ignorance and non believing fools and your ignorance, you are giving people double reason not to read your posts/threads.

Just my 2 cents

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wingsnut19

The penalties against the Pens last night were just as bad as the ones against the Wings. The called off goal was unfortunate, but they have told the Wings that this is going to happen, and the Wings accepted the risk. To me its not obvious that the refs are trying to let the Penguins win, rather they made another reputation call rather than the right one.

Now, if they continue to call off good goals, I might start to buy into this conspiracy stuff. But until theres about 4 goals call back on the Wings, I'm not going to touch it.

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Pens6615

Its funny how some fans come in here saying how stupid the NHL is and how Bettman is ruining the NHL, but then some come in here and say they are smart enough to instruct the refs to favor one team over an other and then cover it up so no one will find out.

If the refs were favoring the Wings over the Pens or not last night one thing is perfectly clear to me: the Pens need to step it up for game 2 or this could be a very short series.

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RustyBadcock

I agree with you. My wife and I were watching last nights joke and I said that I wouldn't be surprised if in years to come it comes out that the NHL had basically rigged the game night in and out during this period of exsistance.

However, you should please read our site rules. People are going to disagree with you here from time to time. Name calling is not tolorated as it's already been pointed out to you. You seem as though you should be able to get you points across without doing so.

All in all, welcome to our site!

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hooon

i hate to sound like the 'conspiracy theory' guy... and obviously im a bit biased as a fan... but it really seems like there is clear favoritism in the nhl.

Someone above said that 'thats a risk the wings accepted'... what risk are you reffering to? the risk of running and operating a professional franchise? Having players on the ice? im not sure i follow this exactly.

I'm not even claiming that the NHL is outright 'rigged' in that everything is planned against one team or the other... but i would find it highly believable that the refs are instructed to 'assist' one team, or call it in their favor. To be honest... it makes perfect sense in a way. They DO need ratings.. and they DO need people getting psyched about hockey...

Its just unfortunate to me that this is the way they would go about doing it (IF my skepticism is true, which it may very well not be). But making multiple 'judgement' calls on non reviewable plays is a bit suspect.

lastly.... its not even as if there arent PLENTY of holmstrom goals that could be called goalie int... he is a gritty in your face player, and often IS obstructing the goalie.... however in the two disallowed goals recently he wasnt even close to interfering.

and apologies for the manner of my ramblings last night... i wasnt exactly 'name calling' per se, albeit i was suggesting a derogatory intellectual status of the first poster to respond.

I think this could be the best series in years in the NHL, but please refs.... let them play

wingsnut19

What I meant is that the Wings aren't going to back down, and are going to continue crashing the net, despite these bad calls. Every time they do that its going to be a risk, not that I agree with the fact that it should be considered a risk. To me, its good that the Wings don't back down. They need to keep crashing the net to win games, like they did in game 6 against the Stars.

And I agree. The last 2 goals called off were brutal. I just don't think it necessarily means that the league wants the Pens to win, or the Wings to lose.

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hooon

yeah i hear ya... and yes they did a wonderful job crashing the net in game 6 in dallas... (at least one of those goals possibly two even COULD have been goalie int.)

but babcock said it best last night in the press conference. Obviously he wouldnt answer the question directly (not wise to anger the refs nor the gods). He said soemthing to the effect of 'did they change the rule when i wasnt looking?'

there just seems to be a conflict in the nhl... they claim to want to open up the scoring, but they need to clearly define the crease rules...

obviously i am overreacting... mabye its nothing but a few bad calls... im just fearing that it will get worse

one thing that could potentially rectify these kinds of calls... make the play reviewable. what is the point of having instant replay... if half of these plays arent even reviewable...