View Poll Results: Who will win the Western Conference Finals?

Wings in 4 2 7.69%
Wings in 5 8 30.77%
Wings in 6 9 34.62%
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:09 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Lidstrom and Rafalski make it tough to set up a good forecheck because they get the puck away from danger so quick, and it goes on to someone's tape too. Sure those guys skate with the puck, but if they are picking it out of the corner, it is gone fast. That's why Dallas was able to pick on San Jose's blueline. The Sharks couldn't move the puck from behind their goal line fast enough.

That's really what shows the ability of Lidstrom and Rafalski to be above even a star like Brian Campbell. No one gets the puck out of their zone like they do.
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Old 05-14-2008, 12:24 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Lidstrom and Rafalski make it tough to set up a good forecheck because they get the puck away from danger so quick, and it goes on to someone's tape too. Sure those guys skate with the puck, but if they are picking it out of the corner, it is gone fast. That's why Dallas was able to pick on San Jose's blueline. The Sharks couldn't move the puck from behind their goal line fast enough.

That's really what shows the ability of Lidstrom and Rafalski to be above even a star like Brian Campbell. No one gets the puck out of their zone like they do.
I wouldn't put Campbell far behind Rafalski. Campbell was just too scared to get hit.
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I wouldn't put Campbell far behind Rafalski. Campbell was just too scared to get hit.
Wasn't Campbell the guy who rocked Umberger last playoffs?
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Old 05-14-2008, 12:32 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Wasn't Campbell the guy who rocked Umberger last playoffs?
Exactly. I've been wondering what happened to him. He's never really been a touhg player but man he could check people. Umberger and Axelsson got blasted by him. Though if you remember, Umberger beat him senseless when he returned.
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That no goal call was just ridiculous.
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I thought the NHL got rid of the crease rule a long time ago. Kelly Sutherland just makes me sick, he's that official who wants fans to no his name, and does a damn good job making sure they do.

It doesn't get much worse than that, there's nothing reviewable on the goal, no infraction. Holmstrom did not even make contact with Turco, and this prima dona calls it off to make a call.

Sutherland, O' Halleran, and Fraser (didn't he retire?)should never see a blink of live playoff action in orange stripes. The playoffs should be reserved for guys who have done good work for the league over a long period of time, or guys who do their job so well as officials no one knows their name outside the NHL offices.
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You don't win a game when you get 2 goals called back on you, its just way too deflating. So, back to game 5 where hopefully the Wings can get over what wasn't a great game for them.
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That no goal call was just ridiculous.
Terrible call, there is simply no justification for such incompetence. I tell you man, this is the sort of thing that is making it so so hard for me to keep watching this game. What these BS NEW RULES have made the game into is sickening. It's become a series of one bad alteration after another to a rule which sucks in the first place.

You want to keep guys from interfering with goalies? LET THE D MAN CLEAR HIM OUT! Like it used to be. I mean tell me how this game is better today? HOW....IT's not and whats worse is most everyone you talk to thinks this is the norm....

Explain to me how I, born and raised on the game, might have played jr if my Bro hadn't died, can look at the game today and simply find myself disinterested.....how did Gary Bettman chase away "family"?

The Wings got robbed tonight. From the opening face off. If that goal isn't called back the Stars have a whole different feel on their bench.....Gawd only knows now.

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That no goal call was just ridiculous.

get a bad non call your way in game one and a bad call against you in game 4, guess that old saying what goes around comes around though, but the call shouldn't have happened anyway Holmstrom should have had a penalty about a minute before the no-goal call, but the reffing has been pathetic in this series. I think neither of them should have happened in the first place and they should make these kinds of plays reviewable.
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get a bad non call your way in game one and a bad call against you in game 4, guess that old saying what goes around comes around though, but the call shouldn't have happened anyway Holmstrom should have had a penalty about a minute before the no-goal call, but the reffing has been pathetic in this series. I think neither of them should have happened in the first place and they should make these kinds of plays reviewable.
So a goal that didn't affect the outcome of the game gets called when it shouldn't have is being compared to a goal that definitely changed momentum of the game and the outlook of the game that wasn't called. And where did Holmstrom knock into Turco to impede movement. Just because the guy is in the crease doesn't mean it is a penalty.

Here's my little thing: WHY IS THAT CALL NOT REVIEWABLE?

If a ref is going to call someone (and I would understand giving Holmstrom less lee-way) like that, you better be damn sure he interfered with the goaltender, cause you can't take it back.

That said, I think Dallas did a hell of a job with their breaks. They were able to take that non-goal and turn it into a momentum shift for that. They got open in a perfect spot without getting pressure from the defense (wtf Rafalski) and were able to put the icing on the cake.

End of the game comment: Homer should have beat the **** out of whoever piled on top of him in those final seconds. That is pathetic.
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