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Bless_D_Mess · 05-18-2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jtkratzer

What are you talking about? He's a very solid puck moving defenseman getting the puck out on the first pass and he's been key on the Flyers power play. Sometimes, I really think you're completely clueless. It's not always about points. Try taking the top two defensemen out of the line up for any team in the league and see what happens.

You mean if Timonen was out today it would be 10-0 by now?

Even though the Rangers played horribly they gave the Penguins a much tougher series than the flyers. Every game was close, almost all one goal games. The difference between flyer fan's contentions and the truth has to be measured in parsecs.

Badat · 05-18-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bless_D_Mess

You mean if Timonen was out today it would be 10-0 by now?

Even though the Rangers played horribly they gave the Penguins a much tougher series than the flyers. Every game was close, almost all one goal games. The difference between flyer fan's contentions and the truth has to be measured in parsecs.

I think the real truth is the Rags were alot healthier then the Flyers and still couldn't get it done in even one game and the flyers did.

Bless_D_Mess · 05-18-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Badat

I think the real truth is the Rags were alot healthier then the Flyers and still couldn't get it done in even one game and the flyers did.

Healthier?

The Rangers called up minor leaguers playing their first NHL games against the Penguins because they had so many injuries.

Plus, the Rangers shut out the Penguins in game 4, Einstein.

**flyerfan2** · 05-19-2008, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bless_D_Mess

Healthier?

The Rangers called up minor leaguers playing their first NHL games against the Penguins because they had so many injuries.

Plus, the Rangers shut out the Penguins in game 4, Einstein.

The Rags blah blah blah the Rags blah blah blah.!!

How'd they make out again in the eastern finals.?? Oh ya thats right they didn't make it that far did they.

Well that was a disapointing way to end the season. Not being competative when the season was on the line.

**jtkratzer** · 05-19-2008, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by careyprice31

deflections, scrambles,.....yeah, I guess you could say thats what i mean.

They dont make the pretty little goals like the penguins love to do. I like the little pretty strategically planned goals the best imo.

and they dont play like they dont wait for good scoring opportunities and/or for the goalie to make the first move before making their move. Its almost like they try for a deflection and hope it works.

I dont wish to offend anyone thats just my opinion from watching a lot of hockey.

although yea the crazy goals work, and I guess i get your point because i cheer for the Habs if the puck goes in on a deflection or a scramble because like the other flyer said it still counts on the scoreboard Im not that fussy about goals being scored that way. Its almost like a fluke or almost luck or something (although deflections and scrambles can be planned strategically) but I think you see my point.

btw, can someone tell me about the game today? who won and who scored and how biron and fleury played?

Missed the game again due to having to go to university and work on an essay :(

The Penguins scored deflection goals, multiple deflection goals in every game. They scored more goals off rebounds and deflections than gorgeous sniping or one-time goals.

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Originally Posted by Bless_D_Mess

You mean if Timonen was out today it would be 10-0 by now?

Even though the Rangers played horribly they gave the Penguins a much tougher series than the flyers. Every game was close, almost all one goal games. The difference between flyer fan's contentions and the truth has to be measured in parsecs.

Was it a tougher series? There were more physical battles with the Flyers. Who cares, the Rangers have been off for a couple weeks now, the Flyers just finished up yesterday.

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Originally Posted by Badat

I think the real truth is the Rags were alot healthier then the Flyers and still couldn't get it done in even one game and the flyers did.

When the Flyers had a 3-0 lead in a game, they also didn't lose that game like the Rangers did game 1. The Rangers did pull out one win which looked like a half-hearted effort by the Pens...probably just an attempt to get another home game for the revenue and to close out in front of the fans.

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Originally Posted by Bless_D_Mess

Healthier?

The Rangers called up minor leaguers playing their first NHL games against the Penguins because they had so many injuries.

Plus, the Rangers shut out the Penguins in game 4, Einstein.

Ever heard of Ryan Parent? Steve Downie? Patrick Thoresen? All guys who were getting first playoff experience...so was Biron.

The Flyers were without their top two defensemen and one of their top forwards.

It doesn't matter...what it all comes down to is the Flyers played farther into the playoffs than the Rangers did. It really doesn't matter...both teams when down 3-0, won game 4, and lost game 5.

With the league's two highest active career goal scorers and guys like Drury and Gomez and a goaltender like Lundqvist, everyone expected more from the Rangers. I'm glad Drury and Shanahan combined for 11 points...6 Flyers had as many or more points than those two combined. Umberger had twice as many goals as any player on the Rangers. No one expected this from the Flyers. The Flyers exceeded expectations by far. The Rangers were a disappointment.

paolosmythe · 05-19-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jtkratzer

The Flyers exceeded expectations by far. The Rangers were a disappointment.

this is true. i recall at the start of the season, my thinking NYR were gonna be a tough team to overcome...PHI as ever promised to be pesky, but not to the same extent.

that said however and being strictly penguini....

despite your respective expectations / disappointments, it was a pleasure seeing PIT defeat you both!

be happy!

careyprice31 · 05-19-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jtkratzer

The Penguins scored deflection goals, multiple deflection goals in every game. They scored more goals off rebounds and deflections than gorgeous sniping or one-time goals.

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Yes, but I've seen the Flyers do it more than Pittsburgh, tbh Pittsburgh likes the pretty goals and the Flyers try for deflections and hope it goes in

**jtkratzer** · 05-19-2008, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by careyprice31

Yes, but I've seen the Flyers do it more than Pittsburgh, tbh Pittsburgh likes the pretty goals and the Flyers try for deflections and hope it goes in

I disagree. I think every team will take every goal no matter what. The Penguins have guys like Hossa, Crosby, and Malkin who are finesse players.

The Flyers have hard working "blue collar" guys like Richards (who has sick moves on the shorthanded breakaways, penalty shots, and shootouts), Umberger, Downie, Knuble, Kapanen, Dowd, Hartnell, etc etc etc.

Carter, Lupul, Briere, and Gagne can all snipe, but they all score all kinds of goals. It doesn't matter how it crosses that line, they all count.

careyprice31 · 05-19-2008, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jtkratzer

I disagree. I think every team will take every goal no matter what. The Penguins have guys like Hossa, Crosby, and Malkin who are finesse players.

The Flyers have hard working "blue collar" guys like Richards (who has sick moves on the shorthanded breakaways, penalty shots, and shootouts), Umberger, Downie, Knuble, Kapanen, Dowd, Hartnell, etc etc etc.

Carter, Lupul, Briere, and Gagne can all snipe, but they all score all kinds of goals. It doesn't matter how it crosses that line, they all count.

Of course, any team will take a goal whether it goes in off a pretty goal or a deflection because they all count.

and I do agree with most all the posters here, you Flyers had a good run.

Congrats.

i might not be able to say 'see you next season' because maybe you will still be here on the forum in the summer months. I will. I love this forum and I love you guys, you are pretty nice.

You all have been nice to me i must say so.

Unlike a few of the habs fans i've seen around here. when the habs got eliminated they left and didnt bother to continue with the rest of the playoffs when their team is gone.

canadiancreed · 05-19-2008, 07:24 PM

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Unlike a few of the habs fans i've seen around here. when the habs got eliminated they left and didnt bother to continue with the rest of the playoffs when their team is gone.

When your intrest is gone, there's not much sense to watch something that doesn't entertain you. If I wanted that I'd sign up to go see the opera.

Besides, with the three teams that I'd give a rat's ass about gone, and the wweather being great, I'd rather be outside enjoying the summer then watching two teams that I really dont' care about. Different strokes for different folks.