If I'm Gainey, I still wait patiently for Sundin to make a decision. We finished first in the East last year without Sundin and we have improved our team this summer. We're still about $8 million under the cap. In the worst case scenario, we start the season with the team we have and if/when Sundin decides to sign with us, then great, or if he signs with someone else or retires, that's fine. We still have tons of cap room and have the assets for a trade at any point during the season, up to the trade deadline.
But boy would I like for him to make up his freakin' mind one way or another!
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If I'm Gainey, I still wait patiently for Sundin to make a decision. We finished first in the East last year without Sundin and we have improved our team this summer. We're still about $8 million under the cap. In the worst case scenario, we start the season with the team we have and if/when Sundin decides to sign with us, then great, or if he signs with someone else or retires, that's fine. We still have tons of cap room and have the assets for a trade at any point during the season, up to the trade deadline.
But boy would I like for him to make up his freakin' mind one way or another!
And I suppose the Habs can afford to that, having a predominately young team in what is now almost sure to be a weak division.
The Canucks, on the other hand, can't afford to wait this out until September. Without Mats we have to roll the dice on either Wellwood or Hodgson as our second line centres, and we don't have the scoring depth to support that move should we comes snake-eyes.
I guess the real question for Vancouver is how long Washington will wait on Sundin before dealing Nylander to someone else? Someone like, oh I don't know, Tambellini and the Oilers?
And I suppose the Habs can afford to that, having a predominately young team in what is now almost sure to be a weak division.
The Canucks, on the other hand, can't afford to wait this out until September. Without Mats we have to roll the dice on either Wellwood or Hodgson as our second line centres, and we don't have the scoring depth to support that move should we comes snake-eyes.
I guess the real question for Vancouver is how long Washington will wait on Sundin before dealing Nylander to someone else? Someone like, oh I don't know, Tambellini and the Oilers?
You're right that the situations are different. They GMs are also different as on one hand, you have an experienced and well respected GMs, on the other hand a rookie who's trying to convince himself that he's all that and a bag of potato chips!
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August 5, 2008 | 10:31am ET Maple Leafs continue to wait
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August's 1st's "soft deadline" passed and unrestricted free agent center Mats Sundin remains uncertain of his playing future.
Sundin's agent, J.P. Barry, told TSN last night that his client "isn't close" to making a decision.
Veterans Steve Yzerman and Joe Nieuwendyk say the Leafs captain should play if he's having any doubts.
"If there's any doubt and guys aren't sure, I think they should be playing," told the Toronto Star. "You can be retired for the rest of your life. You'll know when you're done.
"If you're not 100 per cent certain that you don't want to play anymore, then the decision is that you should be playing."
Barry suggested a decision should come later this month, with as many as six teams hot on Sundin's trail.
"People always told me: 'Play as long as you can,'" Nieuwendyk told the Star.
August 5, 2008 | 10:31am ET Habs still an option for Sundin
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As the Mats Sundin saga drags on, the Montreal Gazette reports the Canadiens remain the mix for the 37-year-old star center, but they may need help in other areas.
Without Sundin, the paper notes the Habs are one of the top five or six teams in the league.
However, the Gazette suggests the addition of another stud defenseman would certainly help their chances.
Sundin, meanwhile, remains undecided about even playing next season, as the Habs and five other clubs wait for an answer.
The Toronto Maple Leafs, Vancouver Canucks and New York Rangers are all interested in Sundin, along with two other unknown franchises.
The Mats Sundin saga has really hit the "dog days" (no offense Burt). The latest is JP Barry telling TSN that his client isn't close to making a decision.
When it comes to making a decision timelines are pointless. You decide and then you have decided. As ridiculous as this sounds it is the equivalent of someone asking you to join them for a movie tonight and you telling them that you will decide after work..and you saying to them, "Ok, great...I'll just wait for you to decide to decide...hey thanks. just awesome!"
Just be leery of reading too much into this. Mats has made it known that he wants to play the entire season. That will require a decision in the next 7-10 days according to JP himself a week ago. so......
A source of mine continues to tell me that the answer is simple, and that Mats is just diverting pressure. It is pretty obvious to me as well that Mats, like Foppa next year will go from completely undecided to signed to a multi-year deal in a matter of hours.
I will go on the record as saying that a decision is FAR more imminent than anyone wants us to believe...
I know that it doesn't happen often, but I agree with Eklund () when he says that it's just tactic to divert the attention, the pressure. Sundin knows that he wants to return. He also knows what's on the table and which teams are interested in him and which one(s) he's interested in joining.
Earlier on, I did believe in Montreal and Vancouver's chance of getting Sundin but if I had money to bet at this point in time, it would be on the Rangers or Toronto. Rumour has it that they're ready to announce a new GM soon and that could very well be the advantage Toronto could have.
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In the mean time, the wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round...
August 5, 2008 | 10:31am ET Maple Leafs continue to wait
TheFourthPeriod.com
August's 1st's "soft deadline" passed and unrestricted free agent center Mats Sundin remains uncertain of his playing future.
Sundin's agent, J.P. Barry, told TSN last night that his client "isn't close" to making a decision.
Veterans Steve Yzerman and Joe Nieuwendyk say the Leafs captain should play if he's having any doubts.
"If there's any doubt and guys aren't sure, I think they should be playing," told the Toronto Star. "You can be retired for the rest of your life. You'll know when you're done.
"If you're not 100 per cent certain that you don't want to play anymore, then the decision is that you should be playing."
Barry suggested a decision should come later this month, with as many as six teams hot on Sundin's trail.
"People always told me: 'Play as long as you can,'" Nieuwendyk told the Star.
August 5, 2008 | 10:31am ET Habs still an option for Sundin
TheFourthPeriod.com
As the Mats Sundin saga drags on, the Montreal Gazette reports the Canadiens remain the mix for the 37-year-old star center, but they may need help in other areas.
Without Sundin, the paper notes the Habs are one of the top five or six teams in the league.
However, the Gazette suggests the addition of another stud defenseman would certainly help their chances.
Sundin, meanwhile, remains undecided about even playing next season, as the Habs and five other clubs wait for an answer.
The Toronto Maple Leafs, Vancouver Canucks and New York Rangers are all interested in Sundin, along with two other unknown franchises.
The Mats Sundin saga has really hit the "dog days" (no offense Burt). The latest is JP Barry telling TSN that his client isn't close to making a decision.
When it comes to making a decision timelines are pointless. You decide and then you have decided. As ridiculous as this sounds it is the equivalent of someone asking you to join them for a movie tonight and you telling them that you will decide after work..and you saying to them, "Ok, great...I'll just wait for you to decide to decide...hey thanks. just awesome!"
Just be leery of reading too much into this. Mats has made it known that he wants to play the entire season. That will require a decision in the next 7-10 days according to JP himself a week ago. so......
A source of mine continues to tell me that the answer is simple, and that Mats is just diverting pressure. It is pretty obvious to me as well that Mats, like Foppa next year will go from completely undecided to signed to a multi-year deal in a matter of hours.
I will go on the record as saying that a decision is FAR more imminent than anyone wants us to believe...
I know that it doesn't happen often, but I agree with Eklund () when he says that it's just tactic to divert the attention, the pressure. Sundin knows that he wants to return. He also knows what's on the table and which teams are interested in him and which one(s) he's interested in joining.
Earlier on, I did believe in Montreal and Vancouver's chance of getting Sundin but if I had money to bet at this point in time, it would be on the Rangers or Toronto. Rumour has it that they're ready to announce a new GM soon and that could very well be the advantage Toronto could have.
Toronto promising a new GM is pretty much like a fart in the wind, knowing the MLSE will still be pulling the strings whoever gets in.
I'm to a point that I don't care just as long as he doesn't pull a mid season return.
Toronto will not be announcing a new GM at least until after next season.
It will either be Burke (puke.......) or it may be Nieuwendyke ( I could never spell that name.....)
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August 5, 2008 | 10:31am ET
Maple Leafs continue to wait
TheFourthPeriod.com
August's 1st's "soft deadline" passed and unrestricted free agent center Mats Sundin remains uncertain of his playing future.
Sundin's agent, J.P. Barry, told TSN last night that his client "isn't close" to making a decision.
Veterans Steve Yzerman and Joe Nieuwendyk say the Leafs captain should play if he's having any doubts.
"If there's any doubt and guys aren't sure, I think they should be playing," told the Toronto Star. "You can be retired for the rest of your life. You'll know when you're done.
"If you're not 100 per cent certain that you don't want to play anymore, then the decision is that you should be playing."
Barry suggested a decision should come later this month, with as many as six teams hot on Sundin's trail.
"People always told me: 'Play as long as you can,'" Nieuwendyk told the Star.
As the Mats Sundin saga drags on, the Montreal Gazette reports the Canadiens remain the mix for the 37-year-old star center, but they may need help in other areas.
Without Sundin, the paper notes the Habs are one of the top five or six teams in the league.
However, the Gazette suggests the addition of another stud defenseman would certainly help their chances.
Sundin, meanwhile, remains undecided about even playing next season, as the Habs and five other clubs wait for an answer.
The Toronto Maple Leafs, Vancouver Canucks and New York Rangers are all interested in Sundin, along with two other unknown franchises.
The Mats Sundin saga has really hit the "dog days" (no offense Burt). The latest is JP Barry telling TSN that his client isn't close to making a decision.
When it comes to making a decision timelines are pointless. You decide and then you have decided. As ridiculous as this sounds it is the equivalent of someone asking you to join them for a movie tonight and you telling them that you will decide after work..and you saying to them, "Ok, great...I'll just wait for you to decide to decide...hey thanks. just awesome!"
Just be leery of reading too much into this. Mats has made it known that he wants to play the entire season. That will require a decision in the next 7-10 days according to JP himself a week ago. so......
A source of mine continues to tell me that the answer is simple, and that Mats is just diverting pressure. It is pretty obvious to me as well that Mats, like Foppa next year will go from completely undecided to signed to a multi-year deal in a matter of hours.
I will go on the record as saying that a decision is FAR more imminent than anyone wants us to believe...
I know that it doesn't happen often, but I agree with Eklund () when he says that it's just tactic to divert the attention, the pressure. Sundin knows that he wants to return. He also knows what's on the table and which teams are interested in him and which one(s) he's interested in joining.
Earlier on, I did believe in Montreal and Vancouver's chance of getting Sundin but if I had money to bet at this point in time, it would be on the Rangers or Toronto. Rumour has it that they're ready to announce a new GM soon and that could very well be the advantage Toronto could have.
I discount just about everything Eklund says, unless I hear it from an actual sporting news source first. In all the time I've gone to his site, I can count on 3 fingers how many times a rumour he's put forward has turned out to be true.
Seriously, I could sit here and put two and two together on what I pick up from various sport sources and come up with more truth than he does.
I really think he's nothing more than a vessel of disinformation for various GMs and agents around the league.
Hahaha, I can't help but laugh at some of the ridiculous signings or offers teams have made today. First a nobody defenseman gets 3.5 million from the Leafs and now a team that is nowhere near contention offers Sundin 10 million a year. What's next?
You know, there is a crisis for players. So if they cant buy others they buy the players that are offered currently.
I discount just about everything Eklund says, unless I hear it from an actual sporting news source first. In all the time I've gone to his site, I can count on 3 fingers how many times a rumour he's put forward has turned out to be true.
Seriously, I could sit here and put two and two together on what I pick up from various sport sources and come up with more truth than he does.
I really think he's nothing more than a vessel of disinformation for various GMs and agents around the league.
The thing to remember about Eklund or any rumour site for that matter, is banner ads. These sites try to increase the number of hits they get, so that more people see the ads. Personally, I think Eklund just makes things up. You'll notice, he usually only does rumours involving the most popular teams. These people go to his site, increase the traffic, and see the ads. Sad to say, but almost everything in the world is about business.
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The thing to remember about Eklund or any rumour site for that matter, is banner ads. These sites try to increase the number of hits they get, so that more people see the ads. Personally, I think Eklund just makes things up. You'll notice, he usually only does rumours involving the most popular teams. These people go to his site, increase the traffic, and see the ads. Sad to say, but almost everything in the world is about business.
He does have connections, but more likely with some agents than with any team executives. He does pretty well with signings, but he is absolutely terrible when it comes to trades. I think he was first to break 2 trades at the deadline, where he has been the first to break a number of signings, sometimes a couple of days in advance of anyone else.
Not that I like the guy, he's still mostly a brainless douche, but he does have a couple connections.
The Mats Sundin watch... finally over!
) when he says that it's just tactic to divert the attention, the pressure. Sundin knows that he wants to return. He also knows what's on the table and which teams are interested in him and which one(s) he's interested in joining.
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