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Old 11-20-2007, 09:18 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Love him or hate him, I don't know about the rest of you, but I am sick and tired of seeing Crosby on every NHL Network commercial.

I know he is good for the sport and all, but my goodness... He had better end up being one of the greatest players ever for all of the air time he gets. Personally, I think Malkin is better than he is, but he doesn't get half the love Crosby gets.

Somebody please tell me I am not the only one that feels this way.
I agree. Crosby is a good player but come on... we do not need to see him in every NHL commercial. There are other good players in the NHL too, so why can't they be used as well?

You are definately not the only one who feels that way. I am glad I am not the only one, either.
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Old 11-21-2007, 04:33 AM   #32 (permalink)
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In some ways I actually feel sorry for Crosby (as much as I can for a guy making millions of dollars playing hockey anyway). From even before he came into the league there was an enormous amount of hype surrounding him. Then there was the whole stink over who would get to draft him (including some conspiracy theories about it being rigged so the Pens, who were a faltering franchise at that point, would get him to "replace" Mario Lemieux). Once Crosby started playing in the NHL there was all the criticism over his whining, which was at least partially deserved. Plus all the marketing he was getting, some touting him as the "saviour of the NHL". Most of what I mentioned is completely out of Crosby's hands, and has more to deal with the league and media than Crosby himself. There's a lot of pressure on Crosby, and I have to say that I've been impressed with how he's handled it so far. Like some I was a Crosby hater when he first came into the league, but he's proven me wrong so far.

I know that I'm getting a little tired of seeing Crosby, while other talented star players are getting little or no exposure, but I also realize what the NHL is trying to do. I think marketing star players is great, but you have to market more than just a couple. But then this is the NHL's marketing, or lack of, that we're talking about here.
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Old 11-21-2007, 06:17 AM   #33 (permalink)
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In some ways I actually feel sorry for Crosby (as much as I can for a guy making millions of dollars playing hockey anyway). From even before he came into the league there was an enormous amount of hype surrounding him. Then there was the whole stink over who would get to draft him (including some conspiracy theories about it being rigged so the Pens, who were a faltering franchise at that point, would get him to "replace" Mario Lemieux). Once Crosby started playing in the NHL there was all the criticism over his whining, which was at least partially deserved. Plus all the marketing he was getting, some touting him as the "saviour of the NHL". Most of what I mentioned is completely out of Crosby's hands, and has more to deal with the league and media than Crosby himself. There's a lot of pressure on Crosby, and I have to say that I've been impressed with how he's handled it so far. Like some I was a Crosby hater when he first came into the league, but he's proven me wrong so far.

I know that I'm getting a little tired of seeing Crosby, while other talented star players are getting little or no exposure, but I also realize what the NHL is trying to do. I think marketing star players is great, but you have to market more than just a couple. But then this is the NHL's marketing, or lack of, that we're talking about here.
I'd have to agree with you MD, Crosby does seem to have taken the pressure and media very well and more maturely than I think I myself would have. I started off as a Crosby hater as well, but it really only took half a season for me to be converted to a fan of the guy, despite his whining. He is a talented and seemingly mature individual, and I choose to respect him for it rather than complain about the exposure he has gained because of it.
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:56 PM   #34 (permalink)
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All this doesn't even matter. Because just like Ovechkin's, Crosby's team will not make the playoffs


One man cannot bring a team to the top, but many men can. That is in the end what counts.
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:03 PM   #35 (permalink)
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All this doesn't even matter. Because just like Ovechkin's, Crosby's team will not make the playoffs


One man cannot bring a team to the top, but many men can. That is in the end what counts.
Pittsburgh is one solid goaltender and one solid defencemen away from being major cup contenders. Unfortunately for them, those are 2 very key things. But, I'd give the team the benefit of the doubt and say they make the playoffs this year.
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Old 11-21-2007, 06:03 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Pittsburgh is one solid goaltender and one solid defencemen away from being major cup contenders. Unfortunately for them, those are 2 very key things. But, I'd give the team the benefit of the doubt and say they make the playoffs this year.
You're right and these are 2 things hard to find although it's not so much about that one defense men as it is a defensive duo that works very well.

This proves again that when you rebuild you rebuild from the back and the pens tried the other way around and are JUST starting to see success with it and had the help of the NHL for them to survive while the NHL is letting Chicago slowly die.

Maybe the pens blew it by drafting Esposito when they really needed a good D prospect. It's like at monopoly when you land on boardwalk and buy it because its prestige when really you needed Illinois avenue hehe
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Old 11-21-2007, 06:09 PM   #37 (permalink)
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All this doesn't even matter. Because just like Ovechkin's, Crosby's team will not make the playoffs


One man cannot bring a team to the top, but many men can. That is in the end what counts.
Wouldent count either team out this early. There 1/4 done thier season. They still have 60 games to play and I think Crosby along with his many other talented teammates will bring the Pens up in the standings before the end of the year. This team should be making a strong cup run if they make the playoffs. Hopefully Fleury will become alot better before then because I dont think Shero will replace him
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:51 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I posted a topic in the Pens forum awhile back called an army of two because in the early going the only two consistent players have been Crosby and Malkin. Sykora is stepping up but the Pens need to get some other scoring. Staal and Rechi stinking up the ice early on has really limited the scoring options. Only difference is at least Staal can play D(Rechi has been getting scratched latley,finally).

We need Whitney to take the next step and become a top D-man in the league as he has the size and awareness to be a good one. As for the goalie im just hoping Fleury can be that top guy. He got all the tools but seems to have mental lapses and lets in a soft one or two. I do think guys will step up because for a lot of Pens they cant play any worse.
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:36 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Ive seen 3 different commercials tonight 2 on TSN and another on Sportnet, and all of them were advertising the NHL. The main commercial which is aired by the NHL had Crosby, Ovechkin, Lecavalier, Iginla, Malkin, and Staal in it? Few other commercials I saw was included Mats Sundin and Bryan McCabe on Sportsnet. Also Vector is advertising Thornton and Martin St.Louis.

I dont really get why people are saying all the NHL advertises is Sidney Crosby. I dont know if it is because I live in Canada, or near Toronto but every NHL commercial or hockey related commercial I see has alot of different NHL players other than Crosby in it. The only 2 commercials I can think of that Crosby advertises by himself is the RBK Edge Jersey commercial, and The sportchek/reebok commercial.

Do they broadcast many different commercials in the states? If anyone has some that are broadcasted in the states or are on NHL networks please posts them on here if there are anys youtube or different links to them. Thanks
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Old 11-22-2007, 08:51 PM   #40 (permalink)
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I agree on everyone about Sidney Crosby getting too much airtime, but I disagree all that **** sadi about him as a player. People say he wont get Gretzky type points....welll they are partially right, afterall, I doubt anyone will be beating his stats unless they decide to make huge nets or stupid new ruling to influence the scoring in the league, but in the sametime, people seem to forget Gretzky put those big numbers during a period where defense were non existent, only few goalies were good, while the rest in general sucked hard. Going into the 90's Gretzky still put good numbers, but hardly anything close to the number of points he was getting in the most offensive era ever in the NHL. Just because Crosby gets a 10 year career of 140points wouldnt mean he would be inferior to Gretzky. However, a fact is he is the NHL best player at this moment even if he doesnt lead in points....I mean the guy is in 3rd place in points and its not like he has done anything flashy compared to last year, he is able to put up points game in and game out even by playing not at his best., so imagine when he starts playing flashy and have those 2-3 points streaks per game, he will runaway from the competition like last year.
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