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Old 10-11-2006, 03:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Found this article in Newsday kind of funny. More turmoil for the Isles.

At a time when the Islanders have been searching for more offense, agent Mark Gandler said earlier in the day that former first-round draft pick Sean Bergenheim, who opted to play in Russia rather than accept what he believed was a lowball offer by the Islanders, would like to return and is willing to apologize to owner Charles Wang. But if the owner won't bend his rule against signing players who weren't in training camp, Gandler said Bergenheim will request a trade.

When Bergenheim held out, the Islanders wrote him off for the season and signed veteran forward Richard Park. Two or three days before last Thursday's season opener, Gandler spoke with Islanders general manager Garth Snow and was told there will be no exceptions to Wang's policy.

"That's the policy of this organization," said Snow, who was with the Islanders last night. "If you miss the first day of training camp, you miss the season."

In Gandler's view, Wang's policy is short-sighted and does not serve the team's best interests. "I understand the rule, but I don't think it's fair to Sean or the fans," Gandler said. "If they want a public apology, that's fine. Somebody has to compromise. At this point, it doesn't look like Charles is willing to do that."

The Islanders offered Bergenheim a two-way contract worth about $730,000, but the 22nd overall pick of the 2002 draft turned it down, believing he should not be subject to a return to the minors. He then was offered a one-way contract worth around $500,000 that virtually would have guaranteed him a roster spot, but he sought about 25 percent more.

Bergenheim played for Lokomotiv, but quit before the NHL opener so he would not be subject to waivers if he signed with an NHL team. Now, Bergenheim is free to sign until the Dec. 1 deadline without passing through waivers.

If he doesn't have an NHL job by then, which is likely because he has no leverage to force a trade, Gandler said Bergenheim likely will play in his native Finland. Gandler still plans to revisit the issue with Snow soon in the hope Wang will have a change of heart.

"If the answer is no, I will ask Garth to trade Sean," Gandler said. "But it has to be done by Dec. 1 so he can play this season. At this point, we're in a stalemate."
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I don't see the issue...Bergie won't play this year.

The team has set rules and they apply to everyone, Bergie broke one that states if you aren't in camp on day 1 you cannot play the rest of the season.

Personally I think he's a good player and could contribute, but maybe next year. If Wang sticks to his policy and makes him sit the year, which he should, it could gain him some respect in the locker room. If Bergie sits and takes it like an adult it'll gain him respect in the locker room as well, he made a decision knowing the consequences and bailed on his team to play in another country. If I was in that locker room I'd like to see Wang enforce his own rule.

I also don't see where they need to compromise, Bergie is being held accountable for his actions and Wang holds all the chips. Especially given the fact he was offered an NHL contract which would have guaranteed him a roster spot. As for asking for money? Try proving your even worthy of playing at the NHL first.

Wang isn't to fault here, better luck next year Sean.
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I just found it amusing how a player actually wants to go back to the Island. He must really be having a crappy time in Europe.
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Yeah I saw that today also. Wang is right to enforce his own rule. Bergenheim was definitely being a punk about it, no doubt. But two things: first of all, Wang can't possibly get any respect from the locker room after firing Smith and signing DiPietro to that deal. Second is, I remember when we drafted Bergenheim. The scouts still see something in him. Not for nothin, we're hurting. What do we have to lose by putting him on the ice to showcase a little talent (if he has it in the bigs)? We could use him as trade bait later on. Lord knows we still need to trade for a physical Kasparaitis-esque defenseman and a talented forward with some leadership. I'm not saying I have the answer to this situation, but I think we need to explore all options here.
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He is gona apologize to wang. :haha:

And for wang he should apologize to the entire NHL fan base for running his team like a circus.

i can see it now wang is gona buy an elaphant and attach a squiggy to it and call it the new zamboni for the next 15 years. :0pouce:
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Wang isn't the smartest owner, thats for sure.

But what amazes me is for every dumb move he's made you've managed to find a way to make an even dumber comment. So tell me...who's the real**** please take a moment to read the faq as personal attacks against other members is not permitted here.!!****
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Wang isn't the smartest owner, thats for sure.

But what amazes me is for every dumb move he's made you've managed to find a way to make an even dumber comment. So tell me...who's the real
hahahhaha, well said.:box: :0pouce: :haha:
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And for wang he should apologize to the entire NHL fan base for running his team like a circus.

i can see it now wang is gona buy an elaphant and attach a squiggy to it and call it the new zamboni for the next 15 years. :0pouce:
Ha! thats pretty funny.

Now the B+B circus doesnt have to come to the colisuem anymore, people can just go to the Isles home games:haha:
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Wang isn't the smartest owner, thats for sure.

But what amazes me is for every dumb move he's made you've managed to find a way to make an even dumber comment. So tell me...who's the real**** please take a moment to read the faq as personal attacks against other members is not permitted here.!!****
Whoa, did I miss something? I didn't see Krypt attack a member. Anyway, I agree with Krypt in that Wang is making the Islanders a laughing stock (okay MORE of a laughing stock) with his stupidity. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we have an owner with passion, but he needs to calm down. The difference between him and Steinbrenner is Steinbrenner actually KNOWS something about baseball whereas Wang has a LOT to learn.

On a sidenote, I think this is the only topic forum I'm going to post in anymore as I'm fairly disgusted with the rest so far.

Anyone planning on going to the game tomorrow? I'm nowhere near LI so I'm out, but I'll be interested in getting a take on how the turn-out is, etc.

We finally pulled out a win, it's a about time!
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nono...I attacked krypt...the mods edited my message to say the "**** please take a moment to read the faq as personal attacks against other members is not permitted here.!!****" part
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