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Old 04-30-2009, 07:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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As you all know.... Fighting has become a major issue in the NHL as well as other hockey leagues. I have developed a product that is patent pending for a quick release removable outer shell fighting helmet for hocky and other sports. I call it the "Break Away" helmet system. This novel helmet system offers increased protection to the head of a player during the course of a hockey fight. As well as protection to the hands of an opponent on impact during the course of a hockey fight. As for looks.... It would be almost identical to the standard hockey helmet used today. The helmets used in the NHL today already have the protective half inch foam liner. What I have done is developed a quick release system for the outer and inner shell (foam liner).
This allows the outer shell and visor to be removed rather efortlessly to engage in a quick paced hockey fight. The inner shell stays on the players head. This protects the player from hitting their head on the ice if they happen to fall, But also allows the opponent to still deliver a clean blow, without the risk of breaking their hands on the hard outer shell.

I appreciate any feedback or opinions one might have on this topic.
Lets keep this integral part of the game alive and keep our players safe.
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Old 08-07-2009, 12:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have to admit, I am a little skeptical about this product. I imagine that you are gearing this towards the older players who fight more. I would also like to say that I totally agree with keeping the spirit of the fight alive and protecting players who are in fights, however, there are three problems that I have with this product.

The first problem that I have is that removing the hard shell should protect you less, not more. Every helmet has two layers of padding the hard layer, and the soft layer that protects the head. It sounds like your helmet only has the soft layer.

You are right in saying that this will protect the fist of the other player more, but that is my second problem. If you are in a fight, why would you want to protect the other player's fist. If I was in a fight I would want my opponent to hurt his fist on my helmet so that I would win the fight.

The third problem that I have is that the face needs more protection then the side of the head. You are removing the visor, this will give you less protection.

Really, in my opinion this product needs to be improved. There is no way that you are protecting players that are in the fight because you are removing too much from the helmet. I do not think this will catch on until it is improved.
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Old 08-07-2009, 02:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have to admit, I am a little skeptical about this product. I imagine that you are gearing this towards the older players who fight more. I would also like to say that I totally agree with keeping the spirit of the fight alive and protecting players who are in fights, however, there are three problems that I have with this product.

The first problem that I have is that removing the hard shell should protect you less, not more. Every helmet has two layers of padding the hard layer, and the soft layer that protects the head. It sounds like your helmet only has the soft layer.

You are right in saying that this will protect the fist of the other player more, but that is my second problem. If you are in a fight, why would you want to protect the other player's fist. If I was in a fight I would want my opponent to hurt his fist on my helmet so that I would win the fight.

The third problem that I have is that the face needs more protection then the side of the head. You are removing the visor, this will give you less protection.

Really, in my opinion this product needs to be improved. There is no way that you are protecting players that are in the fight because you are removing too much from the helmet. I do not think this will catch on until it is improved.
I think he means more protection when compared to removing your helmet completely. And I'd agree that just the soft layer is better than having nothing on your head and cracking it on the ice.

Most of the time, players remove the others helmet in fights so that they don't hurt their fist. Again, it's the removal of the helmet completely. Not to mention that a lot of players look at fighting as a noble matter. A lot of them currently remove their helmets on their own so that their opponent doesn't hurt their hand on a visor or helmet. If they simple remove the hard outer shell, they can still keep that nobility, but not risk the injury. Although they usually remove the helmet to get rid of the visor.

Why would the face need more protection during fights? This makes zero sense, given where most of the fighting injuries have come from. Falling down and hitting the back of your head on the ice is very dangerous, and where most of the injuries (and the death) have occurred. 95% of fighting injuries have occurred where a player has fallen back and received a concussion because the bare back of their head hit the ice, whereas I can only remember one or two serious injuries from a punch to the face. Again, a lot of players remove their helmet and visor in fights.

If you're not going to man up and be able to take a punch to the face or want your opponent to get injured then simply don't fight. Two of your problems aren't even problems, per se, and the other is only a problem if the players helmets never come off in fights now, which they don't.

I'd like to see some product demonstration video, since I think a break off visor could work well for fighting. And be less expensive.
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I think he means more protection when compared to removing your helmet completely. And I'd agree that just the soft layer is better than having nothing on your head and cracking it on the ice.

Most of the time, players remove the others helmet in fights so that they don't hurt their fist. Again, it's the removal of the helmet completely. Not to mention that a lot of players look at fighting as a noble matter. A lot of them currently remove their helmets on their own so that their opponent doesn't hurt their hand on a visor or helmet. If they simple remove the hard outer shell, they can still keep that nobility, but not risk the injury. Although they usually remove the helmet to get rid of the visor.

Why would the face need more protection during fights? This makes zero sense, given where most of the fighting injuries have come from. Falling down and hitting the back of your head on the ice is very dangerous, and where most of the injuries (and the death) have occurred. 95% of fighting injuries have occurred where a player has fallen back and received a concussion because the bare back of their head hit the ice, whereas I can only remember one or two serious injuries from a punch to the face. Again, a lot of players remove their helmet and visor in fights.

If you're not going to man up and be able to take a punch to the face or want your opponent to get injured then simply don't fight. Two of your problems aren't even problems, per se, and the other is only a problem if the players helmets never come off in fights now, which they don't.

I'd like to see some product demonstration video, since I think a break off visor could work well for fighting. And be less expensive.
I understand what you are saying about removing the helmet completely and I will admit that I did not think about the other player removing the helmet.

The point about keeping the nobility however, is false. What you were saying about keeping the nobility without risking the injury cant happen because it is the risk of injury that gives players the nobility.

The thing that I am trying to say is that you either have protection on your head, or you don't. If you want the nobility of having no protection, then you should not have any protection.

If you want safety, then it makes no sense to take off a layer of the helmet to do it.

I would also like to see where you got the statistic of "95% of fighting injuries have occurred where a player has fallen back and received a concussion because the bare back of their head hit the ice." To me this seems like a radical number because I have seen more injuries come from a broken nose or a gash across the face then I have seen from concussions.
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I read it somewhere on TSN a while ago. When I said that, I meant injuries where a player misses an extended period of time. A cut or broken nose are set or stitched shut and then you're done, barring other circumstances, you can sometimes come back in the same game. The only major injury from a punch to the face where a player missed significant amount of time recently is when Boogaard broke Fedoruk's face. The most publicized hockey death is from the player hitting his head on the ice after the fight, and there are a ton of concussion issues stemming from the same thing.

Having no protection isn't what makes it noble. The players take off the helmet so that the opponent doesn't hurt their hand and that all things are fair. That's what's noble, it's respect shown for both fighting and your opponent. If they could remove the outer shell, or at the very least their visor, their opponent still wouldn't hurt their hand and things would still be fair. And could be safer.

I don't necessarily agree with stripping off the hard shell, either, since I already stated that removable visors could do the same thing since most players who remove their helmets wear visors. Think of Iginla in this case.
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they said they wanted to get rid of fightning,but no you van't get rid of that their still going to do it. And in plus if players want to get in fights they got visors.
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