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Old 07-04-2008, 05:57 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Spartacus, please, as per site rules, stop posting all in caps...

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Old 07-04-2008, 06:06 PM   #12 (permalink)
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You're going to make an example out of me? Really? Do you think you've succeeded so far?

Koivu hasn't been in the league for 15 years. He has never scored more than 22 goals... which he got in 06-07. He is what he is. A solid leader, who scores key goals and plays by example. A player who has persevered through great personal hardship. I have a feeling you're the one who does not know what you're talking about.
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DONT KNOW WHAT PART OF THIS YOU DONT GET BUT THE THNG OF IT IS THIS

YOU ARE WRONG

PERIOD

THE SUPPOSED MOST STORRIED FRANCHISE IN SPORTS DOES NOT WIN GAMES BY HAVING A CAPTAIN WHO THE STATS CLEARLY SHOW CANNOT SCORE...ANDTHATSEXACLTY WHY THEY AREN;T WINNING GAMES...THEIR CAPTAIN CANNOT AND DOES NOT SCORE WITH ANY REGULARITYAT ALL...AND ALL OF HIS LEADERSHIP SKILLS PLUS THAT HAVE DOEN THE FOLLOWING FOR THIS TEAM...

NOTHING !!!

LOSING SEASON AFTER LOSING SEASON AFTER LOSING SEASON WITH EITHER NO OR VERY LITTLE PLAYOFF ACTIVITY !!!

THE ONLY EXAPLE KOIVU HAS SET IS HOW TO CHEAT AT THE END OF YOUR SHIFTS AND CASUSE MORE 2 ON 1'S AND 3 ON 2'S AGAINST THISTEAM THAN ANY OTHER SINGLE PLAYER IN IT'S HISTORY~!!!

AND AT THIS POINT, DEFENDING HIM THE WAY YOU ARE, IT'S CLEAR THAT TALLKING TO YOU IS A WASTE OF TIME...YOU DO NOT HAVE THE FACTS STRAIGHT AND OBVIOUSLY HAVE NOT BEEN FOLLOWING THIS TEAM !!!!

AS LONG AS HE HAS BEEN THEIR, THEY HAVE LOST !!!

SERIOUSLY MAN, WHAT OART OF THIS ARE YOU HAVING TROUBLE UNDESTANDING ???

A CAPTAIN IS SUPOSED TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE

WHAT EXAMPLE HAS HE SET???????????

YOUR LOST BUDDY !!!

AND WHILE HE HAS BEEN A CAPTAIN WHO CANNOT SCORE {THE ENTIRE TIME} WE HAVE HAD ZERO SUCESS AND WON NOTHING !!!
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Old 07-04-2008, 06:06 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Hello,

My name, for the sake of these boards is SPARTACUS.
First and foremost, welcome to the hockey forum. A couple of things that will make everyone happy would be to stop typing in ALL CAPS as it looks like you're yelling. The second thing to consider is direct attacks to other members, fans and hateful comments against French Canadians aren't allowed on this site.

Other than that, you're entitled to your opinion but allow another member who's lived through 4 decades of Habs' hockey to respond to some of your comments...

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1ST OF ALL...

THIS TEAM IS GOING NOWHERE AND FAST !!!

FOR 5 YEARS NOW OUR OBVIOUSLY BLIND AND STUPID COACHING STAFF HAS FAILED TO REKOGNIZE THAT SAKKU KOIVU HAS 26 GOALS IN HIS LAST 300+ HOCKEY GAMES.

THAT NUMBER IS SO FAR BELOW WHAT IT SHOULD BE THAT IT IS AMAZING HE HASNLT BEEN BIUGHT OUT AND KICKED OUT OF THE SPORT.

HIS PERFORMANCE NUMBERS ARE N9THING LESS THAN A COMPLETE DISGRACE AND THIS CITY SHOULD BE ASHAMED TO HAVE AGUY WITH NUMBERS LIKE THESE AS A CAPTAIN.

HE IS ASHADOW OF HISFORMERSELF AND NEEDS TO BE STRIPPED OF THE "C" AND DEMOTED AT MINIMUM TO 2ND LINE CENTER.

IF YOU SEE THIS ANY OTHER WAy you are living in complete denial.

as a captain, this man will NEVER EVER LEAD THIS TEAM TO A CUP AND IT WILL NEVER EVEN BE CLOSE AS LONG AS HE IS THERE!!!
First, let's get the facts straight. Koivu has scored 90 goals in his last 380 regular season's games but let's face it, he's not as much of a goals' scorer as he is a playmaker, as he had 229 assists in the same time span. He made a 30 goals scorer of Richard Zednik, a 20 goals scorer out of Jan Bulis and Micheal Ryder (who?) scored 25, 30 and 30 goals in his first 3 seasons playing with Koivu. Let's face it, he hasn't had a quality winger to play with since the days of Mark Rechhi. I'm not the biggest Koivu fan there is, but he's certainly not as bad as you're painting him out to be.

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#2- CAREY PRICE WAS A JOKE. A SICK AND VERY REVEALING JOKE.
his performance should have set off alarm bells the size of Gabraltar and if he isn't gone by next September I will eat my hat. Someone, probably Gainey himself or the entire Scouting staff completely BLEW that one...the man is nowhere neartready for this league and half the golatender of say a Josee Thodore or Chritobal Huet...in one sentence...the deal to get rid of Huet was perhapos the singleworst deal made by any GM in 120years of Pro and amateur Hockey...BAR NONE !!!
Price had one of the best record in the entire NHL amongst goaltenders since being called up from Hamilton. Yes, he didn't perform as expected against the Flyers but he's only 20 years old and we must be careful in the expectations we're putting on players that age, especially goaltenders. I'd suggest waiting before calling him a bust as I have a feeling that he'll prove you wrong no later than this coming season.

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#3- For 15 years now this team's MGMT team has been LYING TO THE PUBLIC. let's start here...with a guy named...Patrice Brisebois, who in over 12 seasons amassed a ttl of 15 goals. Honestly...a 5 year old pee wee could do far better. I Defy anyone to PROVE me wrong...I AM 50 TIMES A BETTER SKATER AND HAVE 50 TIMES THAT IDIOTS PUCK SENSE AT 46 YEARS OLD IN MY PINKY THAN THAT GUY WILL EVER HAVE IN HIS ENTIRE RETARDED FRENCH BODY !!!HE DOESN'T BELONG IN THE NHL LET ALONE THIS TEAM...HE HAS ZERO PUCK SENSE. AND THE KICKER IS THIS...YESTERDAY...GAINEY DUMPED MARK STREIGHT...HOW IN THE **** DOYOU DUMP MARK STREIGHT WHEN BRISEBOIS IS STILL ON THIS TEAM...STREIGHT WAS ONE OF OUR BEST PLAYERS ALL SEASON LAST YEAR...PERIOD...HE DID ITALL...PLAYED "O" AND "D" AND GAVE 200% EVERY TIME HE WAS ON THE ICE...THE DECISION THO DUMP STREIGHT AND KEEP BRISEBOIS DENONSTRTATES A 100% COMMITMENT TO LOSING !!!
Two things... if you are as good as you're saying, why aren't you in the NHL? Also, Brisebois isn't with the team as he's a UFA. Streit was let go because you simply don't pay a 4th line player and PP specialist who's had ONE good season $4 million. In my books, that's excellent management.

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YESTERDAY WE LOST OUT ON HOSSA

WE HAVE ALREADY LOST OUT ON SUNDIN AND FRANKLY NOONE WANTS TO PLAY HERE ANYMORE BECAUSE THE FRENCH PRESS AND THE FANS ARE RETARDED !!!
I removed the out of line comment in that post. I guess 29 teams are also committed to loosing as only one team was able to sign Hossa. Or is it 30 teams committed to loosing because Sundin hasn't signed with anyone? The fact remains that Free Agents are just that... FREE to sign with whoever they want. By the way, I wouldn't count Sundin out quite yet as we do have cap space while other interested teams like New York and Detroit don't anymore.

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WE LOST OVER 23 GAMES AT HOME LAST YEAR AS A DIRECT RESULT OF THE FRENCH FANS CHANTING "OOOOWAAAAYYYY OOOOWAAAYYY OOOWAAAAYYYY OWAAAAYYYY OWWAAAAYYYY" AND RAZZINGBTHE OPPOSING TEAMS PLAYERSAND GOLAIES WHILE WE WERE WINNING BY 1 GOAL WITH 2 1/2 PERIOD LEFT IN A MUST WIN GAME.

IN EACH AND EVERY CASE YOU COULD PHYSICALLY WITNESS THE OTHER TEAM RE-AQUIRUIBNG IT'S LEGS JUST TO SHOW UP THESE RETARDED FANS...AND IF YOU THINK THIS IS AN EXAGGERATION OR IN ANY WAY NOT TRUE, YOU HAVEN;T BEEN TO A HABS GAME IN THE LAST 3 YEARS!!!
Every year, Montreal is said to be one of the toughess places to play on the road due to their fans chanting and the noise level. Let's not forget the number of times when the team fell behind last year and they came back to win because the crowd was cheering them on, including the franchise record come from behind win against the Rangers while down 5-0 to win 6-5!

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#5-What improvments to our offense..have the Habs made?

GEORGE LARAQUE...????????????????

OH YEA BABY OH YEA...THATS GONNA GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS BOOSTING OUR OFFENSE...

ALEX TANGUAY...IS 100%NNOT THE ANSWER TO ANYTHING !!!

JESUS CHRIST WTF IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE FOLKS????????????

THIS IS WHATS WRONG...

THE HABS ARE COMMITTED TO LOSING !!!

THEY DON'T CARE ABOIUT THE FANS...AND IN 15 YEARS YOU SHOW ME ONE INSTANCE WHERE THEY DEMONSTRATED THAT THEY DID!!!

#6-BOB GAINEY AND GUY CARBONNEAU HAVE LOST TOUCH WITH THE REALITY OF HOCKEY IN MONTREAL!!!

WE DO NOT CONDONE LOSING HERE!!!

AND SOMEHOW ALL OF THIS TEAMS FANS SAVE FOR A FEW OF US ARE LIVJUNG IN COMPLETE DENIAL...AND WILL KEEP TELLING YOU...

"WE'LL GET 'EM NEXT YEAR"

WELL I GOT NEWS FOR YOU PEOPLE...

IT WAS NEXT YEAR 12 YEARS AGO

IT IS NEXT YEAR RIGHT BLODDY NOW !!!
First off, I find it ironic that you'd praize the Habs' toughness in the '70s and in the same text, diss the acquisition of Georges Laraque.

Gainey is the best thing that's happen to the franchise since Serge Savard was GM. He took over a completely depleted team who had to share its farm team with Edmonton and Dallas to having its own, a farm team to call our own who went as far as winning the Calder Cup as the best team in the AHL in spite of being one of the youngest.

He's not looking for quick fixes. He's building this franchise the way Ken Holland is doing in Detroit, by drafting well and adding the odd element here and there. It takes patience to build this way and although I do understand that some fans might be impatient thinking of the last time we won the Cup, we must realize that it wasn't Gainey's doing and his era started 4-5 years ago, not 15 years ago.

This team went from not making the playoffs two years ago to finishing first in the conference in spite of being picked by most "experts" including Michael Fabre, to finish between 10-13, out of the playoffs. Yes, they've lost in the playoffs to a weaker Philadelphia team, but I think that we're on the right track in adding toughness in Laraque and replacing Ryder with Tanguay. Give them time, see what they bring before putting them down, you may just be positively surprised.
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Old 07-04-2008, 06:10 PM   #15 (permalink)
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LMAO

the responses here show one thing and one thing only

i am dead bang on the money, you are all living in denial, and this is exactly why this team keeps losing...

it's mgmt is thinking the way you are !!!

until koivu is demoted and a captain that leads by example is brouGHT on board

this tEAm will be AND WILL REMAIN MIRED IN MEDICORITY !!!
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LMAO

the responses here show one thing and one thing only

i am dead bang on the money, you are all living in denial, and this is exactly why this team keeps losing...

it's mgmt is thinking the way you are !!!

until koivu is demoted and a captain that leads by exampleis brioguth on board

this time will be AND WILL REMAIN MIRED IN MEDICORITY !!!
I'm sorry to have taken the time to reply to your post the way I thought it deserved, in a respectful manner. It took time and maturity to do so, not in attacking you or your idea.


EDIT: I moved the thread to the Habs' forum, a more appropriate place for it.
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It must be so nice to exist in a world where there are two sorts of people:

1. People that agree with you - smart people.

2. People that disagree with you - idiots who live in denial.

It's a terrific way to live, but with the caveat that you must never, ever, ever............. EVER pay any respect to an opinion that is contrary to your own.

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It must be so nice to exist in a world where there are two sorts of people:

1. People that agree with you - smart people.

2. People that disagree with you - idiots who live in denial.

It's a terrific way to live, but with the caveat that you must never, ever, ever............. EVER pay any respect to an opinion that is contrary to your own.

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So you're saying that anyone who's not a Habs' fan is an idiot, right?
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LMAO

the responses here show one thing and one thing only

i am dead bang on the money, you are all living in denial, and this is exactly why this team keeps losing...

it's mgmt is thinking the way you are !!!

until koivu is demoted and a captain that leads by example is brouGHT on board

this tEAm will be AND WILL REMAIN MIRED IN MEDICORITY !!!
Wait, everyone disagreeing with you shows that you're "dead bang on the money"? Interesting philosophy. Most people would take that as a good indication that they are wrong.
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LMAO

the responses here show one thing and one thing only

i am dead bang on the money, you are all living in denial, and this is exactly why this team keeps losing...

it's mgmt is thinking the way you are !!!

until koivu is demoted and a captain that leads by example is brouGHT on board

this tEAm will be AND WILL REMAIN MIRED IN MEDICORITY !!!
I challenge you to use arguements based on logics to support your claims.

I have a hard time seeing a team who finished 1st in the East as commited to losing, now the leafs on the other hand.... (hehe sorry couldn't help myself)

Another thing, you're a perfect exemple of my biggest pet peev; people who always complain without ever offering any solutions.

Finally; there's more to hockey then how many goals a player scored. B!tching that Brisboi didn't have much goals simply shows how hockey ignorant your really are.

edit; please oh please Mods leave this open until CnC can have a crack at it, I need to see what happens lmao
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