Maybe I'm missing your point here. Where's the bias? It's stating a record, power play stats, an injury......umm.....ya I'm confused. Please elaborate.
Philadelphia has the hottest power play in the league...I know their .1% behind Montreal for the season, but as the note said, it's hitting at 32.7% over the last 13 games and has only gone one game in that stretch without a power play goal. 6 out of the last 11 games, they've scored 2+ power play goals. 13-3-1 is the best record in the league since Christmas. They lead their division. They score more goals per game and have a better goal differential. They're only .6% behind Montreal in penalty kill. They have the most points in the league by players 25 and younger. I just can't really see how Montreal is ahead of Philadelphia, especially factoring in that gaff of giving up 5 straight goals to lose in regulation after having a 3-0 lead. It's not a big deal, but has there been a team that's better than Philadelphia over the last month? I'm not being a homer, just looking at the stats.
Well lets remember that TSN is a Canadian based network, of course they are going to cater to the ones that butter their bred. I'm going to take a guess here but I imagine you have ESPN or some comcast thing. Do they not arrange their content to suit their customers? Sure they do.
Well lets remember that TSN is a Canadian based network, of course they are going to cater to the ones that butter their bred. I'm going to take a guess here but I imagine you have ESPN or some comcast thing. Do they not arrange their content to suit their customers? Sure they do.
I read several different sites for NHL content. TSN seems to focus soley on the Canadian teams unless it involves a suspendable action by one of the other teams. I would think that if you're going to cover the NHL, you'd cover the entire NHL. ESPN at least has content about all teams. They do seem to have a bias towards the the teams in the northeast. Not the division, but the northeastern US. It's not a focus on them, it's a bias when they do their rankings. The Rangers have received bloated rankings all year even though they've struggled to score goals until last week.
Because Canadians in general follow hockey more than Americans, I would expect a Canadian based site to cover all of hockey better than an American site, but that's not the case. It is funny though how much outrage there was about the Flyers and their suspensions, but you don't even hear a hiccup about Volchenkov's hit on Booth, or the back and forth hits in that home and home series between Washington and Toronto. Why? Because if they bring up the Washington hit(s) and not the Toronto hit(s), they'd be blatant and obvious hypocrites with double standards.
I just can't really see how Montreal is ahead of Philadelphia,
Philly with their players is supposed to be good, Montreal is jsut OMG WTF BBQ for the position they're currently in?
Just my stab at it. Personally I never really look at TSN's stuff save their streaming of the Juniors (and that's a joke even). Only announcers that I cant' stand more then their talking heads is Toronto's old crew on CBC.
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...especially factoring in that gaff of giving up 5 straight goals to lose in regulation after having a 3-0 lead.
That' sthe "OLE!!!!" curse though. That's powerful voodoo man, be thankful your fans haven't found something so self destructive. When watching the game it was creepy how godo Motnreal was doing, and as soon as the stupid fans start signing that m'f'in OLE!, the angers istantly begin to own. It's like an on-off switch for skill for that team.
Too bad they dont' play on the road the whole season; they'd be probably twenty points higher.
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It's not a big deal, but has there been a team that's better than Philadelphia over the last month? I'm not being a homer, just looking at the stats.
Couldn't tell ya, but I'm sure it'd be hard to find one if there is.
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Well lets remember that TSN is a Canadian based network, of course they are going to cater to the ones that butter their bred. I'm going to take a guess here but I imagine you have ESPN or some comcast thing. Do they not arrange their content to suit their customers? Sure they do.
For the VERY brief comcast programmign I've seen oh ya, it's all Flyers, all the time. It's like CBC's hockey night in Canada and the leafs. Doesn't matter how bad they are (flyers, leafs), they'll get air time. Hell even Centre ICe is like that, where all the HD games.....are leaf games. Friend of mine bought Centre Ice to see the Sens in HD....nope, only when they're playing the Leafs.....maybe Montreal....but anyone else is in smear-o-vision. As Amorog put it, the networks know where their bread is buttered.
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I read several different sites for NHL content. TSN seems to focus soley on the Canadian teams unless it involves a suspendable action by one of the other teams. I would think that if you're going to cover the NHL, you'd cover the entire NHL. ESPN at least has content about all teams. They do seem to have a bias towards the the teams in the northeast. Not the division, but the northeastern US. It's not a focus on them, it's a bias when they do their rankings. The Rangers have received bloated rankings all year even though they've struggled to score goals until last week.
Because Canadians in general follow hockey more than Americans, I would expect a Canadian based site to cover all of hockey better than an American site, but that's not the case.
It has gone downhill in the last while but from the colelction of folks that I personally know, when the Canadian teams are gone fromt he playoffs the intrest drops right off. It's very rare to find a person that is not a fan of a Canadian team here, be it Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, or if they're from out west Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver or Winnipeg (yes there are still some left). Outside of that it's pretty are to find anyone that follows an American team. it'd be like having Comcast giving detailed coverage of the Phoenix Coyotes, jsut nto happening. it's not their market.
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It is funny though how much outrage there was about the Flyers and their suspensions, but you don't even hear a hiccup about Volchenkov's hit on Booth, or the back and forth hits in that home and home series between Washington and Toronto.
The second is probably because Toronto fans jsut figured it was another day at the office? Just a theory to throw out there.
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Why? Because if they bring up the Washington hit(s) and not the Toronto hit(s), they'd be blatant and obvious hypocrites with double standards.
And thats' not TSN's job, that's CBC's job.
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so Pronger should have manned up and fought Kesler or laid him out with a big hit later in the game. retaliation by stomping on someone is cowardly. its not like Pronger isn't a big guy and can't stand up for himself.
If he could stand up for himself he'd still be in Edmonton.
I have Sirius radio and I don't think Jeff Marek is all that bad on the CBC Hockey Night show. It's on from 4-6 and then repeats, but he gets some interesting people on to interview. I disagree with some of their discussion, but agrees with someone all the time. You do get to hear about some of the younger talent that ESPN certainly doesn't cover. Sirius says they cover the NHL, but I don't think there are more than a handful of teams that actually broadcast the games as I don't pick up much. Seems every NFL game and NBA game is broadcast and you can pick which announcers you want to hear.
Comcast has two stations in this area...CSNPHL and CSNDC...both channels cover Philadelphia and Washington DC sports respectively. There have been maybe 2 or 3 games that haven't been available on TV at all this year for the Flyers. If it's not on CSN (Comcast Sports Net), then it'll be on another local channel, or like tonight, it's on Versus. It might be on CSN as well, but they might be broadcasting a Sixers' game. I'm a die hard fan and I watched, well I started to watch probably 75+ games even last year. I say started because when they were down 4+, I'd either fast forward through with it on to see if anything interesting happened or just turn it off. I frequently record the games I can sit down and watch live. CSN does have HD broadcasts of Caps and Flyers games. HD hockey is great.
Comcast Spectacor owns or is at least a partial owner of the Flyers, I think they hold a majority share hold. So, of course they're going to get coverage. If one of the largest TV content providers in the country owned Phoenix, they'd be a better team because they'd get TV time, they'd have the money to invest in players, and with that TV time and good players comes a dedicated fan base like you see in Philadelphia where revenue isn't a problem.
I don't ever hear anything on TSN nor do I get the TV broadcast. I only see what's on their website. It is frustrating how they act like hockey doesn't matter outside of Canada. I follow hockey as much during the playoffs whether the Flyers are in or not. I watched every playoff game I could get on TV last year. Maybe I'm not the typical hockey fan, but I watched the Pittsburgh New Jersey game last night because it was available. Not only that, it had implications for the Atlantic division lead and I called it, NJ won in overtime creating a 3-way tie again.
I have Sirius radio and I don't think Jeff Marek is all that bad on the CBC Hockey Night show. It's on from 4-6 and then repeats, but he gets some interesting people on to interview. I disagree with some of their discussion, but agrees with someone all the time. You do get to hear about some of the younger talent that ESPN certainly doesn't cover. Sirius says they cover the NHL, but I don't think there are more than a handful of teams that actually broadcast the games as I don't pick up much. Seems every NFL game and NBA game is broadcast and you can pick which announcers you want to hear.
Maybe Bettman thinks they're too mainstream? In my statement earlier I was referring to the HNIC broadcast. Radio is realyl varied depending upon station and source. Some can be quite good, others are pure choad. All seem to sound horrible (AM....please just die already)
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Comcast has two stations in this area...CSNPHL and CSNDC...both channels cover Philadelphia and Washington DC sports respectively. There have been maybe 2 or 3 games that haven't been available on TV at all this year for the Flyers. If it's not on CSN (Comcast Sports Net), then it'll be on another local channel, or like tonight, it's on Versus. It might be on CSN as well, but they might be broadcasting a Sixers' game. I'm a die hard fan and I watched, well I started to watch probably 75+ games even last year. I say started because when they were down 4+, I'd either fast forward through with it on to see if anything interesting happened or just turn it off. I frequently record the games I can sit down and watch live. CSN does have HD broadcasts of Caps and Flyers games. HD hockey is great.
NOw I did not know that COmcast had two feeds like that, although logical being the geographical area and close proximity of teams. As for HD it's practically made for hockey and should be implemented for all broadcasts. Where's HDNet when we need them?
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Comcast Spectacor owns or is at least a partial owner of the Flyers, I think they hold a majority share hold. So, of course they're going to get coverage. If one of the largest TV content providers in the country owned Phoenix, they'd be a better team because they'd get TV time, they'd have the money to invest in players, and with that TV time and good players comes a dedicated fan base like you see in Philadelphia where revenue isn't a problem.
Having ravenous fans from other sports, almost fifty years of history and a geographical area that can naturally (or at least used to) support playing conditions for the game doesnt' hurt either.
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I don't ever hear anything on TSN nor do I get the TV broadcast. I only see what's on their website. It is frustrating how they act like hockey doesn't matter outside of Canada. I follow hockey as much during the playoffs whether the Flyers are in or not. I watched every playoff game I could get on TV last year. Maybe I'm not the typical hockey fan, but I watched the Pittsburgh New Jersey game last night because it was available. Not only that, it had implications for the Atlantic division lead and I called it, NJ won in overtime creating a 3-way tie again.
There is a double header tonight on Versus.
For some it doesnt' exist south of the 49. Your'e right, your'e not the typical fan, at least south of the border. Here you would see stuff like that, although it realyl only happens in the Stanley Cup playoffs since most of our teams are long gone by then
Maybe Bettman thinks they're too mainstream? In my statement earlier I was referring to the HNIC broadcast. Radio is realyl varied depending upon station and source. Some can be quite good, others are pure choad. All seem to sound horrible (AM....please just die already)
NOw I did not know that COmcast had two feeds like that, although logical being the geographical area and close proximity of teams. As for HD it's practically made for hockey and should be implemented for all broadcasts. Where's HDNet when we need them?
Having ravenous fans from other sports, almost fifty years of history and a geographical area that can naturally (or at least used to) support playing conditions for the game doesnt' hurt either.
For some it doesnt' exist south of the 49. Your'e right, your'e not the typical fan, at least south of the border. Here you would see stuff like that, although it realyl only happens in the Stanley Cup playoffs since most of our teams are long gone by then
Sirius Satellite radio is awesome. I've never heard XM, but I have my Sirius hooked up with RCA cables and I can't tell the difference between CD quality and the satellite. Talk radio is tough because of the microphone and it's not a hard wired source like playing cds/digital media.
Anyway, Comcast is huge. I think they are the largest provider in the US. Comcast Spectacor owns the Flyers, maybe part of the Capitals, the 76ers, and I believe the Phantoms. I don't know if they are involved with the Phillies or Eagles or not, but I'm pretty sure every Phillies game is on TV through one of the Philadelphia stations, mostly on CSNPHL and the same with the Nationals on CSNDC.
I guess I don't know hockey fans that are different from me. Since I played, I went to college and lived with guys who played, and we're all ravenous fans. That's one thing I miss about college and why I like this forum. I don't get to talk hockey every day like I did in college face to face. It's online or on the phone with a buddy from Hartford. My dad will read the paper and what not, he keeps an eye on it, but he doesn't watch the games much unless I'm over there watching with him. My wife watches every Flyers game with me. When they're on the west coast and don't start till 10, she stays up and watches the entire game with me. I guess it's what you're exposed to.
I don't have HD right now, actually my cable is free...I pay for cable internet and channels 2-90 were hot on the tv when I hooked it up. When I get an HD TV, I'll definitely get the upgraded service. My parents and the in-laws both get HDNET and they carry games from time to time. I'd like to see Versus broadcast in HD since they're the only network that carries hockey on a regular basis. NBC is now doing their game of the week since football is over.
It's funny how I got banned for trolling other forums while everybody is here trolling my habs thread.
Whatever...I maintain my position , the Habs are gonna win the stanley cup and now i'm sure.Even if we lose tonight ( thats not gonna happen IMO ) I will maintain my position.
-Alex Kovalev is the best Right wing in the league after Alfredsson and Iginla and he's the most spectacular player of the league.
-Tomas Plekanec is the most underrated player in the NHL.
-Andrei Kostitsyn is a future superstar.
-Andrei Markov is a norris candidate even if Lidstrom will win it.
-Komisarek is a hell of a brutal defenseman and I wish we can sign him to a 10 years contract.
Whatever...I maintain my position , the Habs are gonna win the stanley cup and now i'm sure.Even if we lose tonight ( thats not gonna happen IMO ) I will maintain my position.
-Komisarek is a hell of a brutal defenseman and I wish we can sign him to a 10 years contract.
I hope you don't expect theHabs to be a contender after last night. Also why would you want to sign a brutal defensemen for 10 years, a hell of a brutal defensemen at that?
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