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Old 12-13-2007, 12:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Roger Clemens will be among those named in The Mitchell Report when it is released later today, according to ESPN The Magazine.
A source told ESPN The Magazine's Shaun Assael that a former New York Yankees' strength trainer told Mitchell's investigators that he supplied Clemens with steroids.
According to the Bergon Record, several Yankees will be named in the report. One industry official told the newspaper that, "It's going to be a rough day in the Bronx."
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No kidding. This one had the suspence of a bad soap opera.
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No kidding. This one had the suspence of a bad soap opera.
Well, when guys have a career year at the age of 42, you really have to wonder why.

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Old 12-13-2007, 06:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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So Rocket got shot up with Roids in his apartment in Skydome. (Now The Rogers Center) Interesting.

Now since this is a hockey forum, I wonder if the NHL went through a similar investigation, what would the report have to say?
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There is more to this story then baseball and drugs. We should keep an eye on how the press treats Clemons, by rights he should be hounded day and night, harrassed everyday and asked the same questions over and over and over and over again, they way the media has done so with Barry Bonds.

How many think this will just blow over?
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There is more to this story then baseball and drugs. We should keep an eye on how the press treats Clemons, by rights he should be hounded day and night, harrassed everyday and asked the same questions over and over and over and over again, they way the media has done so with Barry Bonds.

How many think this will just blow over?
Not to be a pessimist, but count me as one that feel it'll jsut blow over. Folsk have become desensitised to this whole thing, which is bad for the sport.
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There is more to this story then baseball and drugs. We should keep an eye on how the press treats Clemons, by rights he should be hounded day and night, harrassed everyday and asked the same questions over and over and over and over again, they way the media has done so with Barry Bonds.

How many think this will just blow over?
Not me. It may take 3 or 5 years to build up to something significant like banning players from the HOF or deleting stats for seasons after proven drug use, or suspending current players for a season or two.

Bonds antagonized reporters for years, they were just giving him a hard time back after years of abuse and his unavailability for interviews. I enjoy seeing a bully get kicked around by the people he picked on. Ditto for Gary Sheffield, the self-proclaimed "savior" of the Milwaukee Brewers franchise. He is playing for his fifth team now or is it #6, I have lost track.

Clemons behavior towards Mike Piazza makes sense now as does his playoff ejection a few years back. My guess is that Clemons will decide to retire now to avoid the scrutiny of the press. I don't think he cares what the fans think, if he did, he wouldn't have switched from Boston to New York.
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Not me. It may take 3 or 5 years to build up to something significant like banning players from the HOF or deleting stats for seasons after proven drug use, or suspending current players for a season or two.

Bonds antagonized reporters for years, they were just giving him a hard time back after years of abuse and his unavailability for interviews. I enjoy seeing a bully get kicked around by the people he picked on. Ditto for Gary Sheffield, the self-proclaimed "savior" of the Milwaukee Brewers franchise. He is playing for his fifth team now or is it #6, I have lost track.

Clemons behavior towards Mike Piazza makes sense now as does his playoff ejection a few years back. My guess is that Clemons will decide to retire now to avoid the scrutiny of the press. I don't think he cares what the fans think, if he did, he wouldn't have switched from Boston to New York.
Actully that was Boston to Toronto to New York. Darn layovers.
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An interesting look on this whole issue. Makes one wonder.

http://www.workers.org/2007/us/mitchell_report-1227/

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On Dec.14, George Mitchell—the former Senate Majority Leader who has served as chairman of the board of the Walt Disney Company and a director of Staples, Inc., as well as a board member of the Boston Red Sox—reported on his “Investigative findings” in the use of steroids in Major League Baseball.
At a Dec. 15 White House news conference, President George W. Bush, former owner of the Texas Rangers baseball team, praised the Mitchell Report. The corporate media attacked the players smeared by Mitchell as “steroid abusers.”

What’s wrong with this picture? Where have we heard all this before?
Remember the other “War on Drugs”? Capitalist politicians crying crocodile tears over drug use led to hundreds of thousands of men and women from the oppressed communities languishing in jails, while drugs continue to flood those communities.
Remember former Secretary of State Colin Powell at the United Nations with all the “proof” that Iraq had “weapons of mass destruction,” resulting in the destruction of a country purely because it sat on a lot of oil?

Why believe the bosses now? Baseball Commissioner Bud Selig represents the owners. It was Bud Selig who unilaterally selected fellow owner George Mitchell to make this “impartial investigation.”

Donald Fehr, executive director of the Major League Baseball Players Association, issued a press release response. Here is some of what he said: “Commissioner Selig named former Sen. George Mitchell to investigate steroid use in baseball. This decision was made unilaterally, without prior consultation with the MLBPA. ...We did request a meaningful opportunity to review this lengthy report prior to today, but the request was denied. ...We must remember that a strong collective bargaining relationship requires mutual respect for the agreements that have been reached.”

The “Mitchell Report” is an owners’ attack on the MLBPA, the baseball players’ union.....
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