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Old 08-17-2008, 06:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Topic of August: Dynasties are dead

Dynasties a thing of the past?

Will we ever be a witness to the great dynasties that had dominated hockey in its first era. The multiple Montreal dynasties, the New York Islanders and the Edmonton Oilers, can their total dominance that they held over the NHL ever be replicated again?

The NHL is so similar to the ages prior to the lockout in so many ways and in others they are so different. It’s amazing how before the Detroit Red Wings won that out of the last three Stanley Cup winners only one of them made the playoffs the year following their cup Championship, with neither Carolina and Tampa ever returning to the playoffs since their wins. There seems to be a parity amongst the league and this seems caused by a CBA generated to eliminate there ever to be a chance for a dynasty again.

With two new teams in the finals ever year, and more young teams on the raise, it seems that the dynasty is dead.

What are you thoughts.
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Old 08-17-2008, 06:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Detroit is the closest thing to a Dynasty. If they win next year, there will be no questions that dynasties still are possible with the right supporting cast.
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Old 08-17-2008, 07:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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With the new CBA it will be hard for teams to keep the same core together. However the CBA isnt really to blame, I reckon. Since the Islanders in the 80's we havent had a team win 3 straight Cups. The chances of winning back to back to back Cups is unimaginable. Thats why what the Leafs, Habs and Islanders have done in the best is amazing. I believe there's a lot of depth because of the induction of Europeen players, which of course makes teams a lot more even.

I think its time to reconsider the definition of NHL dynasty. Maybe a team that has won 3 Cups in 5 years? or 5 Cups in 10 years? And even then, we still dont have a recent dynasty.
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Old 08-25-2008, 01:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Dynasties a thing of the past?

Will we ever be a witness to the great dynasties that had dominated hockey in its first era. The multiple Montreal dynasties, the New York Islanders and the Edmonton Oilers, can their total dominance that they held over the NHL ever be replicated again?

The NHL is so similar to the ages prior to the lockout in so many ways and in others they are so different. It’s amazing how before the Detroit Red Wings won that out of the last three Stanley Cup winners only one of them made the playoffs the year following their cup Championship, with neither Carolina and Tampa ever returning to the playoffs since their wins. There seems to be a parity amongst the league and this seems caused by a CBA generated to eliminate there ever to be a chance for a dynasty again.

With two new teams in the finals ever year, and more young teams on the raise, it seems that the dynasty is dead.

What are you thoughts.
The dynasty probably is dead. I thought if Pittsburgh had pulled it out last year they had a shot because of the incredible core and the ability to keep alot of those guys. Now that Malkin and Fleury are secure I do think they could still do it.

The most likely way a dynasty could happen would be if the cap keeps going up, then teams can keep guys (if they're willing to go to the top of the cap). It would still be almost impossible, it's a watered down 30 team league. Did you know that they're are 10 times more kids playing football on planet earth than hockey? too many teams.

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With the new CBA it will be hard for teams to keep the same core together. However the CBA isnt really to blame, I reckon. Since the Islanders in the 80's we havent had a team win 3 straight Cups. The chances of winning back to back to back Cups is unimaginable. Thats why what the Leafs, Habs and Islanders have done in the best is amazing. I believe there's a lot of depth because of the induction of Europeen players, which of course makes teams a lot more even.

I think its time to reconsider the definition of NHL dynasty. Maybe a team that has won 3 Cups in 5 years? or 5 Cups in 10 years? And even then, we still dont have a recent dynasty.
How about 3 Cups in 10 years? Then you have Detroit and New Jersey. Don't forget the Oilers after the Islanders or that Boston should have had a 1970's dynasty, but Orr's bad knee and the WHA (Cheevers and Sanderson leaving) did them in after 2 Cups in 1970 and 1972 and losing to Montreal in the 1971 finals.
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