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Old 04-13-2008, 11:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am intending to buy CCM SUPER TACKS 852 or 652. However these skates have to be made snug fit to your feet in sort of an oven called the "skyformer" by CCM. The dealer has to do this, however I am afraid my dealer is not able to to this. She can offer a good price (150 Dollar). Is it absolutely necessary to do this?

Question two. The Tacks product has (unfortunately!) been replaced by the Vector product. From what year do the 852 and 652 Super Tacks skates originally date? And what was the purchase price back than?

I wonder you guys can tell me more...



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Old 04-15-2008, 12:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I skate in the 652s, I've had them 2-3 years. They're no longer made, I think it's been a few years. One word of caution- I skate pretty often, maybe 2-3 games per week and the base of both my boots has started to chip off. It's a plastic plate that the tuck attaches to, and it is cracked in several places. It doesn't hamper my skating yet, but I will need new ones soon. I play mostly defense, and I take a lot of crap off the skate which may be repsonsible for this, but I'm not happy to see this in my skates.

I got them heat molded and they fit like a soft leather glove from day 1.
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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heat moulding (in snowboard boots especially) is a bit of a gimmick to be honest. for sure it can allow the material of the boot liner (or ice skate) to conform to the contours of your foot a bit more quickly, but it is by no means necessary and as such, is just a piece of marketing hype.

i have bought brand new boots and had them moulded or not and even bought skates which were second hand and thus moulded to someone else's cheesy beads. as ever, after a blister fraught breaking in period, all was well with all of them.

i wonder tho, if the plastic elements etc, such as the base of the boot is up to withstanding the sort of temperatures that materials and fabrics actually benefit from?

for eg. Grossie above benefited from having their skates baked in that they fitted like gloves, but now the 'boot plate' has split. connected maybe?

as for your skate's age... well they are no older than my custom lite 1052s which are 2001.... so no worries
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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First of all thx! for your advice

Okay, if I understand the boot will shape towards my feet anyway. It's just a matter of time and heatening in an oven can speed up the process. Right?

Hmmm. If I understand correct (I am no native English speaker) the sole of Grossi's boot is cracked in several places...

Maybe you shouldn't have tried so hard to stop us forwards. Just kidding of course. That's too bad. You know, I have been experimenting for many years with composite materials for many years building all kind of stuff. I read the soles are made of carbon, am I right? Carbon is extremely rigid and light. However it can't stand (what we call in Europe) "point stresses". It 'll crack like glass. Often they call this kind of damage a "star".

What do you think about the price. I am not sure... but I guess for Europe it is cheap. However 2001?? I expected them to be something like 2006. I saw the pictures on the "hockey monkey site" and it says 2006. Once you get a bit older you don't follow these fashion things anymore. Yeah I know... nice hockey player I am uhh
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Generally Carbon is used as a shank plate as opposed to the whole sole. It covers the arch area and expands like a Y to prevent your foot from flexing and causing foot injuries like Plantar Facia.

as for the skates... The 852's frist came out in 2001 and they have had several editions since then all leading up to the 2006 model
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Old 04-15-2008, 02:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Bianchi- I think your description of what's going on with my skates is correct- it's points stress. What has happened is that on the inside of the sole where the tuck rivets are attached there are cracks in the plastic plate on the sole, and on one of my skates a piece has actually come off. On my model there is an actual plastic (?) plate between the boot and the tuck/blade holder. That's the piece that's cracked.

I'm probably looking at some Bauer XXVs in the near future, they're marked down to $300 now over here.

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